Mexican Drug Lord Officially Thanks American Lawmakers for Keeping Drugs Illegal

ALien · 03-29-2009, 04:25 PM

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Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman Loera reported head of the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico, ranked 701st on Forbes' yearly report of the wealthiest men alive, and worth an estimated $1 billion, today officially thanked United States politicians for making sure that drugs remain illegal. According to one of his closest confidants, he said, "I couldn't have gotten so stinking rich without George Bush, George Bush Jr., Ronald Reagan, even El Presidente Obama, none of them have the cajones to stand up to all the big money that wants to keep this stuff illegal. From the bottom of my heart, I want to say, Gracias amigos, I owe my whole empire to you."

According to sources in the Mexican government, President Calderon is begging American officials to, in the words of reggae great Peter Tosh, legalize it. "Oh yeah," said an official close to the Mexican president, "Felipe is going crazy. He's screaming at everybody who comes in, 'Why don't they make this sh*t legal already! You're killing me here!' Look, everyone knows, when you have Prohibition, you create gangsters. And the more you prohibit, the more gangsters you make. El Chapo is hero now to all those slumdogs who want to be millionaires. Kids in the street, when they play games, they all want to be El Chapo, the baddest man in the whole damn town."

Meanwhile, many speculate that rich and prominent Mexican families are in cahoots with American businessmen in the alcohol industry, wealthy industrialists who launder the unprecedented profits from the drug business with their legitimate enterprises, and lawmakers who get gigantic kickbacks and payoffs to make sure that these drugs remain illegal, so they can remain rich, fat and happy. According to sources on both sides of the border, tens of millions of dollars in payoffs and kickbacks are stashed in Swiss banks every year, blood money from the brutal business made possible by a corrupt system supported by laws that don't, and have never, worked.

Rather than putting El Chapo and his kind out of business by modernizing outdated laws and in the process making billions of dollars from taxing drugs (as is done with cigarettes and alcohol), United States government has spent hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars chasing its tail, and offered a $5 million reward for the capture of El Chapo. Many have said that the offer is unofficially: Dead or Alive.

Meanwhile, as an epidemic of murderous violence rages on the Mexican-US border, and the American government wastes boatloads of badly needed money on the illegal drug business which results from the Prohibition laws, El Chapo is laughing all the way to the bank. "Whoever came up with this whole War on Drugs," one of his lieutenants reports he said, "I would like to kiss him on the lips and shake his hand and buy him dinner with caviar and champagne. The War on Drugs is the greatest thing that ever happened to me, and the day they decide to end that war, will be a sad one for me and all of my closest friends. And if you don't believe me, ask those guys whose heads showed up in the ice chests."

kidflash2008 · 03-30-2009, 10:05 AM

At least Secretary Clinton acknowledges that the United States is at fault for the huge demand of drugs. I do think drugs should be legalized and taxed. Treatment centers should be made available, so people get treatment without the fear of being arrested and going to jail.

There is a lot of money to be made in the prison industry. From building to supplying prisons, there is to much money in it. If a person makes under $20,000 a year, they make more money for the government in prison than they do free. Have you noticed how much stuff is made by prisoners? The government sells it at a very nice profit. One of the best kept secrets out there.

ZERO HOUR · 03-30-2009, 12:51 PM

Honestly they should legalize it, and than tax the hell out of it.

Truthed · 03-30-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZERO HOUR

Honestly they should legalize it, and than tax the hell out of it.

I agree

Constantine · 03-31-2009, 06:49 AM

Why is weed even illegal, I mean hell it's a stupid plant.

Mingus · 03-31-2009, 07:39 AM

It's illegal because sober people think there is something wrong with somebody who's high, or so it seems.

The following statistics and data is from a chapter in Andrew Weil's "The Natural Mind":

Pretty much all of the serious, objective research on marijuana has yielded indifferent results. This is partly because of the pharmacological effects it has (moderate increase in heart rate and dilation of conjunctival blood vessels) are not too "interesting" and partly because there seems to be little, overall, that differentiates a user from a marijuana-naive person.

The claims that it will hook you on cocaine and/or heroin are made up. There is absolutely no medical evidence to support the notion that marijuana is dangerous in any way, shape, or form. The only test that yielded a result in which marijuana impaired people's ability to do a function was when they were directed to do something atypical and they weren't prepared to do it. It seems that, otherwise, people who used did not have much of a problem functioning whatsoever.

Marijuana is cited to have a detrimental effect on recalling the immediate past, but Andrew Weil counters that that is a characteristic of all altered states and is expressly the point of meditation.

kidflash2008 · 03-31-2009, 10:31 AM

It is pure political pander to keep these substances illegal. The prison and law enforcement industry makes billions of dollars a year on the drug problems alone. Put people in prison, and there is money to be made. Very few politicians have the guts to stand up to the anti-drug lobby. Prohibition did not work, and neither does this type of prohibition.

ZERO HOUR · 03-31-2009, 12:52 PM

And most of these people who are locked up are non violent drug offenders, and we fill our prison system up with these people

while murders, rapist, and other violent offenders walk the Fin streets and can't get prosecuted because our jails our at max capacity.

like wtf they need to open their eyes

Mingus · 03-31-2009, 02:02 PM

As Alice in Chains' Junkhead goes, "you can't understand a user's mind, but try with your books and degrees. If you let yourself go and open your mind, I'll be you'd be doin' like me, and it ain't so bad".

This is the truth, to a degree. The purposeful, if not guided, approach to drug use has always yielded positive outcomes. The nihilistic abuse of refined drugs and the intake of street drugs, such as street acid (something Alan Watts specifically warned of), in addition to the unsupervised nature of these activites usually are the root of the so-called "bad trips" and the deaths surrounding their use. One will not be inclined to try to fly, literally, if one were with a shaman or a guide of some kind.

It also seems that the utilitarian drive of society puts conscious-altering substances in a negative light, due to the seemingly non-utilitarian purpose for them. Opium, tobacco, and alcohol are the only non-pharceutical drugs that are made available (and opium for the express purpose of their medical use in pain killing) to the public, disregarding the entire argument that most of the problem substances (cocaine, crack, heroin) are synthetically manufactured, in a sense, to fully concentrate the mind-altering substance. Coca leaves themselves make you energized and are not addictive. They are perfectly fine, like marijuana. Opium was or is treated like candy in the Middle East, at least as late as the 30's or 40's. I don't know, unfortunately, if this is still the case though.

kidflash2008 · 04-01-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZERO HOUR

And most of these people who are locked up are non violent drug offenders, and we fill our prison system up with these people

while murders, rapist, and other violent offenders walk the Fin streets and can't get prosecuted because our jails our at max capacity.

like wtf they need to open their eyes

Actually, they just build more prisons and add tent areas for non violent offenders. The ones who do get freed are ones who have not committed a violent crime. It is true they put the drug users in with the murderers, rapists and other assorted violent thugs, but they do not release the violent ones unless they have been paroled.

The idea is to keep them in prison for a long time. They make more money on them, and some charge the same rate for a cot in a tent and an actual cell. Some prisons make money by accepting other states criminals. It is a booming business that gets unnoticed.

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03-30-2009, 10:05 AM	#2
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	At least Secretary Clinton acknowledges that the United States is at fault for the huge demand of drugs. I do think drugs should be legalized and taxed. Treatment centers should be made available, so people get treatment without the fear of being arrested and going to jail. There is a lot of money to be made in the prison industry. From building to supplying prisons, there is to much money in it. If a person makes under $20,000 a year, they make more money for the government in prison than they do free. Have you noticed how much stuff is made by prisoners? The government sells it at a very nice profit. One of the best kept secrets out there.

03-30-2009, 12:51 PM	#3
ZERO HOUR Junior Investigator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 19	Honestly they should legalize it, and than tax the hell out of it.

03-31-2009, 06:49 AM	#5
Constantine Junior Investigator Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 49	Why is weed even illegal, I mean hell it's a stupid plant.

03-31-2009, 07:39 AM	#6
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	It's illegal because sober people think there is something wrong with somebody who's high, or so it seems. The following statistics and data is from a chapter in Andrew Weil's "The Natural Mind": Pretty much all of the serious, objective research on marijuana has yielded indifferent results. This is partly because of the pharmacological effects it has (moderate increase in heart rate and dilation of conjunctival blood vessels) are not too "interesting" and partly because there seems to be little, overall, that differentiates a user from a marijuana-naive person. The claims that it will hook you on cocaine and/or heroin are made up. There is absolutely no medical evidence to support the notion that marijuana is dangerous in any way, shape, or form. The only test that yielded a result in which marijuana impaired people's ability to do a function was when they were directed to do something atypical and they weren't prepared to do it. It seems that, otherwise, people who used did not have much of a problem functioning whatsoever. Marijuana is cited to have a detrimental effect on recalling the immediate past, but Andrew Weil counters that that is a characteristic of all altered states and is expressly the point of meditation.

03-31-2009, 10:31 AM	#7
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	It is pure political pander to keep these substances illegal. The prison and law enforcement industry makes billions of dollars a year on the drug problems alone. Put people in prison, and there is money to be made. Very few politicians have the guts to stand up to the anti-drug lobby. Prohibition did not work, and neither does this type of prohibition.

03-31-2009, 12:52 PM	#8
ZERO HOUR Junior Investigator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 19	And most of these people who are locked up are non violent drug offenders, and we fill our prison system up with these people while murders, rapist, and other violent offenders walk the Fin streets and can't get prosecuted because our jails our at max capacity. like wtf they need to open their eyes

03-31-2009, 02:02 PM	#9
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	As Alice in Chains' Junkhead goes, "you can't understand a user's mind, but try with your books and degrees. If you let yourself go and open your mind, I'll be you'd be doin' like me, and it ain't so bad". This is the truth, to a degree. The purposeful, if not guided, approach to drug use has always yielded positive outcomes. The nihilistic abuse of refined drugs and the intake of street drugs, such as street acid (something Alan Watts specifically warned of), in addition to the unsupervised nature of these activites usually are the root of the so-called "bad trips" and the deaths surrounding their use. One will not be inclined to try to fly, literally, if one were with a shaman or a guide of some kind. It also seems that the utilitarian drive of society puts conscious-altering substances in a negative light, due to the seemingly non-utilitarian purpose for them. Opium, tobacco, and alcohol are the only non-pharceutical drugs that are made available (and opium for the express purpose of their medical use in pain killing) to the public, disregarding the entire argument that most of the problem substances (cocaine, crack, heroin) are synthetically manufactured, in a sense, to fully concentrate the mind-altering substance. Coca leaves themselves make you energized and are not addictive. They are perfectly fine, like marijuana. Opium was or is treated like candy in the Middle East, at least as late as the 30's or 40's. I don't know, unfortunately, if this is still the case though.