Red Cross report on US torture prisons leaked

kidflash2008 · 04-08-2009, 09:42 AM

Mr Mark Danner of The New York Review wrote an article about the content of the report. It can be downloaded in its entirety from nybooks.com:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22614

The Red Cross is quite upset about the leak of this report, as they have confidentiality when they go into prisons of third world countries and dictators. The reports are supposed to go to the leaders of such places to inform what is going on. The only way they have access is to keep what they find out a secret. Someone decided this was too important and leaked the entire report.

The most terrifying thing about this is that the report is not a third world country or a hack dictator of a banana republic. This is about the United States, the supposed free country and democracy that is against this type of treatment. It is time to stop pussyfooting around, and start war crimes trials against the perpetrators. Dick Cheney admits to the torture in interviews and seems to know he is going to get away with this crime against humanity.

We are now lower than any of the supposed "axis of evil" countries we espouse to be better than.

Mingus · 04-08-2009, 11:59 AM

Eh, it seems that the pressure for Obama to get this shit under US jurisdiction seems to be getting more burdensome, and now with Spain's investigation underway (who would think they would live up to the infamous skit?), it seems to be inevitable that the entire group will be charged anyway. In fact, this leak is more like a witness handing over evidence to the police than an average (though large in scope, with potentially devastating consequences) leak.

kidflash2008 · 04-08-2009, 02:15 PM

Dick Cheney does not help the others by admitting to torture in his interviews. We also do not need to be shamed by the other countries that will be looking at charging those responsible for torture. The United States has a short time to get the wheel of justice started. Do we really need to be treated like a third world dictatorship that will not put war criminals on trial?

Mingus · 04-08-2009, 06:43 PM

Well, how biased would our legal system be, considering the seemingly endless string of Bush-friendly cohorts they manage to throw enough money at (or blackmail). I don't think blackmail or bribery would work very well in Spain.

kidflash2008 · 04-09-2009, 09:55 AM

You are correct that many of the accused would never even see their day in court here. The high priced power lawyers would be keeping busy filing appeals and other legal paperwork.

Maybe we should give all the evidence to The Hague, and let a Nuremberg type trial commence. I don't think it will happen, but justice of some type needs to be served.

04-08-2009, 09:42 AM	#1
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	Red Cross report on US torture prisons leaked Mr Mark Danner of The New York Review wrote an article about the content of the report. It can be downloaded in its entirety from nybooks.com: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/22614 The Red Cross is quite upset about the leak of this report, as they have confidentiality when they go into prisons of third world countries and dictators. The reports are supposed to go to the leaders of such places to inform what is going on. The only way they have access is to keep what they find out a secret. Someone decided this was too important and leaked the entire report. The most terrifying thing about this is that the report is not a third world country or a hack dictator of a banana republic. This is about the United States, the supposed free country and democracy that is against this type of treatment. It is time to stop pussyfooting around, and start war crimes trials against the perpetrators. Dick Cheney admits to the torture in interviews and seems to know he is going to get away with this crime against humanity. We are now lower than any of the supposed "axis of evil" countries we espouse to be better than. Last edited by kidflash2008; 04-08-2009 at 02:13 PM. Reason: changed link to direct article

04-08-2009, 11:59 AM	#2
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	Eh, it seems that the pressure for Obama to get this shit under US jurisdiction seems to be getting more burdensome, and now with Spain's investigation underway (who would think they would live up to the infamous skit?), it seems to be inevitable that the entire group will be charged anyway. In fact, this leak is more like a witness handing over evidence to the police than an average (though large in scope, with potentially devastating consequences) leak. Last edited by Mingus; 04-08-2009 at 12:01 PM.

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04-08-2009, 02:15 PM	#3
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	Dick Cheney does not help the others by admitting to torture in his interviews. We also do not need to be shamed by the other countries that will be looking at charging those responsible for torture. The United States has a short time to get the wheel of justice started. Do we really need to be treated like a third world dictatorship that will not put war criminals on trial?

04-08-2009, 06:43 PM	#4
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	Well, how biased would our legal system be, considering the seemingly endless string of Bush-friendly cohorts they manage to throw enough money at (or blackmail). I don't think blackmail or bribery would work very well in Spain.

04-09-2009, 09:55 AM	#5
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	You are correct that many of the accused would never even see their day in court here. The high priced power lawyers would be keeping busy filing appeals and other legal paperwork. Maybe we should give all the evidence to The Hague, and let a Nuremberg type trial commence. I don't think it will happen, but justice of some type needs to be served.