Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?

[BURNING MAN]

WASHINGTON – California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.

The document lists Obama's parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.

WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

Last week, a counterfeit document purporting to be Obama's Kenyan birth certificate made the rounds of the Internet, but was quickly determined to be fraudulent. The new document released by Taitz bears none of the obvious traits of a hoax.

Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn't want his name known because "he's afraid for his life."

Taitz's motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, requests the purported evidence of Obama's birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

"I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds," Taitz told WND. "I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate].

"I'm forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond," she said.

"Before, they said, 'You don't have anything backing your claims,'" Taitz explained. "Now I have something. In fact, I have posted on the Internet more than Obama has. My birth certificate actually has signatures."

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[kidflash2008]

That bitch is crazy. She has been on the Colbert Report and Mr Colbert had a lot of fun with her. Most of his jokes went over her head, which is typical.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...s---orly-taitz

If Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii, why did the local newspaper print a birth announcement?

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/07/o-rly/

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...n_the_usa.html

[kidflash2008]

Some errors on the Kenyan birth certificate:

1. Coast Province was a part of Zanzibar during the time the birth certificate was issued.

2. The name of the country was Dominion of Kenya. Kenya did not become Republic of Kenya until December 1964.

[$$kneel-B4-me$$]

wow, very good investigating kidflash. If i was Barack, i'd show my birth certificate only to the judges and keep it from everyone else. Then i would have someone erase her social security number and turn the tables on her, just to drive that bitch crazy. "Who's your president? come on ho, who's your daddy?" lol

[Mingus]

There was also a code of some sort that was on there that was a total crock too. The code included 47 and 44, Obama is 47 and the 44th president. Also, an O, not to be mistaken with a zero, was included too.

[kidflash2008]

No matter how many times the real birth certificate is shown to the public, the Birther movement will not go away. Many Republicans are joining the movement to make sure they get that base out to vote for them in the primaries.

In the end, it is all about politics.

[Mingus]

It's not politics. It's racism. The rules have to change now because a non-white person has entered the office. It's been like that with damn near every other achievement minorities ever faced. The most notable exception (if not the only one) would be Justice Clarence Thomas, since he was so anti-equal opportunity and even displayed chauvinistic tendencies (to put it nicely) he fit in perfectly with the Republican ideology of a white, male heirarchy. The black community also adopted the male heirarchy as well (at least that's what I got from Cornel West, who explains this in Race Matters).

[BURNING MAN]

She's definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.

I love WND, it has some of the best bullshit available online. Last year just before the election, Janet Porter ran an article that preached: You cannot be a a Christian and vote for Obama. Not only was the nation in grave danger, according to God, so are you.

I find it frightening that some people believe their bullshit.

[Sillygoth]

Originally Posted by Mingus

It's not politics. It's racism. The rules have to change now because a non-white person has entered the office. It's been like that with damn near every other achievement minorities ever faced. The most notable exception (if not the only one) would be Justice Clarence Thomas, since he was so anti-equal opportunity and even displayed chauvinistic tendencies (to put it nicely) he fit in perfectly with the Republican ideology of a white, male heirarchy. The black community also adopted the male heirarchy as well (at least that's what I got from Cornel West, who explains this in Race Matters).

Why's it got to be racism? Democrats and Republicans have been pulling foul bs on each other for years, regardless of the color of their opponent.

Quite frankly, the only racism I've seen in regards to Obama is that a TON of minorities voted for him purely FOR the color of his skin, not because they agreed with (or in many cases even knew anything about) his policies (or lack thereof).

But for some reason, any time ANYTHING negative gets said about the messiah, the knee jerk reaction is to cry racism. (Just for the record, I voted for him as well, though I didn't get caught up in the fervor and myth of his image.)

Personally, I'd be less concerned about if he's a "real" US Citizen, and more concerned why the taxpayers are paying over a MILLION dollars to his wife's entourage of TWENTY staffers. (By comparison, Laura Bush had only one paid staffer, and the most ANY first lady has EVER had before Michelle Obama was THREE.)

[Sillygoth]

(Also for the record, I'm VERY pissed at him for banning clove cigarettes. So yeah, I don't have ANYTHING nice to say about him because he's officially done more to directly anger me than that last retard we had in office.)