Why is Mars' Moon Phobos Hollow?

vr_don · 06-21-2010, 11:09 AM

Mars' Moon Phobos has been analyzed as being one-third hollow according to European Space Agency reports, which has triggered some wild and utterly fascinating rumors and speculation.

From "The Phobos Blog" -- published on March 25th: General , Science 25 March, 2010 17:21

Radio science result from 2008 Phobos Flyby now accepted for publication:

We report independent results from two subgroups of the Mars Express Radio Science (MaRS) team who independently analyzed Mars Express (MEX) radio tracking data for the purpose of determining consistently the gravitational attraction of the moon Phobos on the MEX spacecraft, and hence the mass of Phobos. We conclude that the interior of Phobos likely contains large voids. When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid.

For a Martian moon that is demonstrably "1/3 hollow" ... as measured by two totally independent space programs, and separated by ~20 years ... under any likely astrophysical formation scenario cannot exist as just a "natural" moon. The MARSIS radar imaging experiment -- according to "inside" ESA sources recounted "a Phobos' interior filled with 'cavernous, geometric rooms ... right-angle walls ... and floors -- detectable via the semi-regular 'structure of the returning, interior radar echoes ...' as they were impressed upon the reflected MARSIS signals ....'"

MARSIS was physically seeing (via this radar) a three-dimensional, totally artificial, interior world ... within Phobos; and a "reflection void interior geometry" ... which correlated eerily with the earlier (lower-resolution) Phobos "interior gravity tracking data ...." No natural "space rock" could possibly possess such an enormous range of "natural radar absorbers and reflectors"; nothing "natural" could reflect (or absorb) EM energy that way across so many orders of magnitude.

In other words -- the MARSIS radar reflections officially published on the official ESA Phobos website... contained explicit scientific data, from multiple perspectives, which strongly "supported the idea that this is what radar echoes would look like, coming back from inside 'a huge ... geometric ... hollow spaceship'

In fact, they were the primary source of the decidedly "internal, 3-D geometric-looking" radar signature.

The concurrence of all three of these independent Mars Express experiments -- "imaging" ... "internal mass distribution" (tracking) ... and "internal radar imaging" -- now agreed that "the interior of Phobos is 'partially hollow ... with internal, geometric "voids" inside it ....'" Meaning that- Phobos is artificial.

AHBotha · 11-13-2010, 06:59 PM

HI vr-don,
Perhaps its the same as our own Moon, also hollow !
Ever look at the depth of the meteor hits on the Moon ? All the same depth ?? and flatten out no matter the size !
Could both have been used as a natural or man made shield for incoming Meteors and space Radiation ?
250 thousand years have come and gone we are told, , and we may just have transversed the Glaxaxy, and have lived on Mars and used the Moon and perhaps may just have returned as we are doing every 6 to 7 thousand years ? Perhaps even evolved into some of those weird Lizard type Aliens we hear about ? Well it was just a question or two, and it makes you and I ask these questions, knowing something is wrong.
Andrew

Sam1Parker · 12-14-2010, 01:52 AM

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06-21-2010, 11:09 AM	#1
vr_don Investigator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 195	Why is Mars' Moon Phobos Hollow? Mars' Moon Phobos has been analyzed as being one-third hollow according to European Space Agency reports, which has triggered some wild and utterly fascinating rumors and speculation. From "The Phobos Blog" -- published on March 25th: General , Science 25 March, 2010 17:21 Radio science result from 2008 Phobos Flyby now accepted for publication: We report independent results from two subgroups of the Mars Express Radio Science (MaRS) team who independently analyzed Mars Express (MEX) radio tracking data for the purpose of determining consistently the gravitational attraction of the moon Phobos on the MEX spacecraft, and hence the mass of Phobos. We conclude that the interior of Phobos likely contains large voids. When applied to various hypotheses bearing on the origin of Phobos, these results are inconsistent with the proposition that Phobos is a captured asteroid. For a Martian moon that is demonstrably "1/3 hollow" ... as measured by two totally independent space programs, and separated by ~20 years ... under any likely astrophysical formation scenario cannot exist as just a "natural" moon. The MARSIS radar imaging experiment -- according to "inside" ESA sources recounted "a Phobos' interior filled with 'cavernous, geometric rooms ... right-angle walls ... and floors -- detectable via the semi-regular 'structure of the returning, interior radar echoes ...' as they were impressed upon the reflected MARSIS signals ....'" MARSIS was physically seeing (via this radar) a three-dimensional, totally artificial, interior world ... within Phobos; and a "reflection void interior geometry" ... which correlated eerily with the earlier (lower-resolution) Phobos "interior gravity tracking data ...." No natural "space rock" could possibly possess such an enormous range of "natural radar absorbers and reflectors"; nothing "natural" could reflect (or absorb) EM energy that way across so many orders of magnitude. In other words -- the MARSIS radar reflections officially published on the official ESA Phobos website... contained explicit scientific data, from multiple perspectives, which strongly "supported the idea that this is what radar echoes would look like, coming back from inside 'a huge ... geometric ... hollow spaceship' In fact, they were the primary source of the decidedly "internal, 3-D geometric-looking" radar signature. The concurrence of all three of these independent Mars Express experiments -- "imaging" ... "internal mass distribution" (tracking) ... and "internal radar imaging" -- now agreed that "the interior of Phobos is 'partially hollow ... with internal, geometric "voids" inside it ....'" Meaning that- Phobos is artificial.

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11-13-2010, 06:59 PM	#2
AHBotha Junior Investigator Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 61	HI vr-don, Perhaps its the same as our own Moon, also hollow ! Ever look at the depth of the meteor hits on the Moon ? All the same depth ?? and flatten out no matter the size ! Could both have been used as a natural or man made shield for incoming Meteors and space Radiation ? 250 thousand years have come and gone we are told, , and we may just have transversed the Glaxaxy, and have lived on Mars and used the Moon and perhaps may just have returned as we are doing every 6 to 7 thousand years ? Perhaps even evolved into some of those weird Lizard type Aliens we hear about ? Well it was just a question or two, and it makes you and I ask these questions, knowing something is wrong. Andrew

12-14-2010, 01:52 AM	#3
Sam1Parker Junior Investigator Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 6	cool information thanks mate --------------------------------------------- Real estate lebanon Jobs in lebanon