Russian Submarine Disaster

[Tecnos]

Russia don't have too good a record with their submarines. The Nerpa has suffered an incident that has resulted in the death of 20 submariners.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1110/p04s01-woeu.html
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[kidflash2008]

As a veteran of the military, I empathize with the loss of fellow military people. They served with honor and duty and the higher ups should find the exact cause of the accident so it is never repeated. My sympathies and prayers to the family members of those courageous sailors.

[Talisyn]

Can someone explain to me how the fire extinguishers killed 20 people?

[ALien]

Originally Posted by Talisyn

Can someone explain to me how the fire extinguishers killed 20 people?

id also like an answer to this question

[Tecnos]

Apparently..... AAAF foam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_fighting_foam is deadly!!!!

"Any contact with it will kill an unprotected person instantly."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1110/p04s01-woeu.html

Media spin????


Only if you bereathe it in? Sureley?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_fighting_foam

I wouldn't like to be in any 'slightly above standard' computer room when this shit goes off........


Utter rubbish!

To kill an unprotected person "instantly", they'd have to be breathing it!!!!!!
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[Tecnos]

Russia loves gas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_...hostage_crisis
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[kidflash2008]

Originally Posted by Talisyn

Can someone explain to me how the fire extinguishers killed 20 people?

When I was in the military, my electronics shop had Halon fire extinguishers. If their was a fire and the alarm went off, everyone had thirty seconds to get out. The Halon takes out all the oxygen in the room, which puts the fire out. There was a button to hold if the fire was small so the Halon would not dump. The sailors in that contained area did not have a chance. It is not known if the fire on board the submarine was enough to threaten everyone else on board. The sailors died, and we should have their families in our thoughts. The family members are the ones who should get answers as to why their children died.

[Talisyn]

Making Halon History



An impressive 150 countries worldwide signed up to the Montreal protocol to control the use of ozone depleting chemicals, and Halon was one of the first substances to be banned, in 1993.


Existing Halon fire extinguishing systems could only be recharged using recycled Halon. In 1999, the EU drew up plans to dispose of Halon 1301 (used in fixed systems) and Halon 1211, used in hand-held fire extinguishers. From 31 December 2002, it was illegal to recharge a Halon fixed fire extinguishing system, and all Halon systems and fire extinguishers were to be decommissioned by 31 December 2003.

Not saying your wrong but it seems unlikely to have something that strips a room of oxygen used on a submarine in the 1st place.

[kidflash2008]

Originally Posted by Talisyn

Not saying your wrong but it seems unlikely to have something that strips a room of oxygen used on a submarine in the 1st place.

You would think so. But the Halon systems may not have been replaced. People forget that all these agreements have grandfather clauses and other areas that can be waivered. Also, just because a country signed an agreement doesn't mean they will follow it or enforce it.