Israelis Signal Attack 'Far Bigger Than 911'

ALien · 11-18-2008, 01:33 PM

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Osama bin Laden plans to test Barack Obama like two former US presidents

DEBKAfile's counter-terror sources report that US president-elect Barack Obama, European and Russian heads of state in Washington for the G20 conference over the weekend were briefed about a probable early al Qaeda attack.

Obama and his team have been advised that a new al Qaeda strike is highly probable in the United States or against a key US target in Europe, North Africa or the Middle East.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 372 of Nov. 14 disclosed that al Qaeda's Yemen base, a reliable barometer for Osama bin Laden's schemes, issued a Directive to All Fighters in Arabia on Nov. 9 presaging a major operation in the United States that will "change the political and economic world" and be "far bigger than 9/11."

The notice said "the operation is very near" and "precise instructions were in the hands of "the fighters, who are already on their way to America" armed with bin Laden's orders. The pretext offered for the attack is the rejection by the US and Europe of al Qaeda's four-year old truce offer whose original pre-condition was the withdrawal of their armies from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The day after the new president's election, al Qaeda issued a little-noticed statement declaring Barack Obama a murtad, i.e. an apostate whose betrayal of Islam is judged the most heinous. Believers have the duty to execute a murtad unlike other non-believers whose death sentence is optional.

Thursday night, Nov. 14, Central Intelligence Director Gen. Michael Hayden said: "Al Qaeda, operating from its safe haven in Pakistan's tribal areas, remains the most clear and present danger to the United States." He was addressing a Washington think-tank.

"Today, virtually every major terrorist threat that my agency is aware of has threads back to the tribal areas. Whether it is command and control, training, direction, money, capabilities, there is a connection to the FATA (Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas.)"

Hayden also mentioned Yemen and Somalia as important al Qaeda theaters of operation.

In private, most heads of the intelligence agencies fighting al Qaeda admit that an attack on the United States or major American interest outside is only a matter of time.

holeg2212 · 11-18-2008, 02:21 PM

Man F***ing Al Qaueda or however its spelt, are crazy f***ers still living like its 2000 years ago, except now they have guns!!
This world will end sooner or later... And im guessing nuclear fallout..

Mingus · 11-18-2008, 04:00 PM

I'm kinda intrigued by Al-Qaeda. They really haven't addressed America all that much in recent times, knowing full well that the American media is hell bent on making you fear every damn thing. All they really have done has sent a few tapes and said some inflammatory rhetoric. Right now, they are doing exactly what the article said, testing Obama. They want to see if he's got a cool head and is willing to see things there way a bit. I am not concerned about them at all. The fact that the group has guns means nothing.

I like to think of them as a counter-culture on a global scale. What is currently in vogue in most nations? Americana. Americana has diseased and oppressed other cultures before, and now with the ever expanding reach of greed-oriented capitalism and the "I'm going to remake you in my image" mentality our politicians have regarding everyone else in the world, I'm not surprised the last frontier of American conquest [Islamic cultures] are reverting to a fundamental ideology to counteract the sweeping change. We're actually seeing the same thing in America itself. I believe that's what the rise in fundamentalism is about, oppression.

Now, when I speak of the oppression Americans are counteracting, my primary interest is education. We shove education down people's throats because that is what is needed to survive in a capitalist society. The problem, as pointed out by Matt Stone in his interview in the documentary, Bowling for Columbine, is that telling kids as early as sixth grade "You have to do this in order to succeed in life" puts a tremendous amount of pressure on a kid. They then have all this angst and worry about it, and they then grow to think that any path but the one they are on leads to failure. That's why we have so many brain dead people going to colleges that supposedly denote prestige among it's students.

To counteract this oppression, in a spiritual sense - because the thoughtless pursuit of things you don't even desire is essentially soulless, fundamentalism has risen. Sure, it has emphasized racism and a total abandonment of everything that made you better before hand, including secular education; but, at least you are free from the oppression of sleepwalking through life, not knowing God, right?

It's the Yin-Yang in action. Americana is an ideology that is simultaneously all-encompassing and selfishly individualistic. Fundamentalism attempts to express a somewhat opposite idea, a more monolithic world view. One that literally is all-encompassing, as everyone (ideally) is essentially the same, with basic individual exceptions, really only physical ones in nature.

kidflash2008 · 11-19-2008, 08:43 AM

Seven years later and Pres Bush has yet to catch Bin Laden, a man who has to use a dialysis machine. Something is rotten, and it isn't in Denmark!

Mingus · 11-19-2008, 08:48 AM

Given that Bin Laden's a family friend, I'm interested in just how "mad" George is at Bin Laden. I was watching Bill Maher a few weeks ago, catching up on the season and somebody said he lives in a villa in Pakistan. We know where he is, and don't care enough to get him it seems. Besides, war in the Middle East is something that benefits Bush's messianic desires. It's a win-win situation for both.

raves475 · 11-19-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mingus

Given that Bin Laden's a family friend, I'm interested in just how "mad" George is at Bin Laden. I was watching Bill Maher a few weeks ago, catching up on the season and somebody said he lives in a villa in Pakistan. We know where he is, and don't care enough to get him it seems. Besides, war in the Middle East is something that benefits Bush's messianic desires. It's a win-win situation for both.

Bush should've captured Bin Laden 7 years ago instead of worry about Daddy's Agenda!

Mingus · 11-19-2008, 01:05 PM

Eh, that won't ever happen as long as Zionists get their way. As long as there are Zionists in high places, I don't see why they would bring him to justice since he provides such great fodder for US and Israeli propaganda.

mich@el · 11-21-2008, 12:54 PM

Just on the subject of bin Laden...... you all know that he is dead right? And, that his name is just being used to push military and therefore financial agendas.......

Mingus · 11-22-2008, 07:02 AM

I've heard he's dead too, kidney failure. I wouldn't be surprised, since we only hear from al-Zawahiri.

11-18-2008, 02:21 PM	#2
holeg2212 Investigator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western Australia Capitol City 'Perth' Posts: 437	cazy sons of! Man F*ing Al Qaueda or however its spelt, are crazy f*ers still living like its 2000 years ago, except now they have guns!! This world will end sooner or later... And im guessing nuclear fallout.. __________________ All evil needs to succeed. Is for the good to stand by and do nothing.

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11-18-2008, 04:00 PM	#3
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	I'm kinda intrigued by Al-Qaeda. They really haven't addressed America all that much in recent times, knowing full well that the American media is hell bent on making you fear every damn thing. All they really have done has sent a few tapes and said some inflammatory rhetoric. Right now, they are doing exactly what the article said, testing Obama. They want to see if he's got a cool head and is willing to see things there way a bit. I am not concerned about them at all. The fact that the group has guns means nothing. I like to think of them as a counter-culture on a global scale. What is currently in vogue in most nations? Americana. Americana has diseased and oppressed other cultures before, and now with the ever expanding reach of greed-oriented capitalism and the "I'm going to remake you in my image" mentality our politicians have regarding everyone else in the world, I'm not surprised the last frontier of American conquest [Islamic cultures] are reverting to a fundamental ideology to counteract the sweeping change. We're actually seeing the same thing in America itself. I believe that's what the rise in fundamentalism is about, oppression. Now, when I speak of the oppression Americans are counteracting, my primary interest is education. We shove education down people's throats because that is what is needed to survive in a capitalist society. The problem, as pointed out by Matt Stone in his interview in the documentary, Bowling for Columbine, is that telling kids as early as sixth grade "You have to do this in order to succeed in life" puts a tremendous amount of pressure on a kid. They then have all this angst and worry about it, and they then grow to think that any path but the one they are on leads to failure. That's why we have so many brain dead people going to colleges that supposedly denote prestige among it's students. To counteract this oppression, in a spiritual sense - because the thoughtless pursuit of things you don't even desire is essentially soulless, fundamentalism has risen. Sure, it has emphasized racism and a total abandonment of everything that made you better before hand, including secular education; but, at least you are free from the oppression of sleepwalking through life, not knowing God, right? It's the Yin-Yang in action. Americana is an ideology that is simultaneously all-encompassing and selfishly individualistic. Fundamentalism attempts to express a somewhat opposite idea, a more monolithic world view. One that literally is all-encompassing, as everyone (ideally) is essentially the same, with basic individual exceptions, really only physical ones in nature.

11-19-2008, 08:43 AM	#4
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	Seven years later and Pres Bush has yet to catch Bin Laden, a man who has to use a dialysis machine. Something is rotten, and it isn't in Denmark!

11-19-2008, 08:48 AM	#5
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	Given that Bin Laden's a family friend, I'm interested in just how "mad" George is at Bin Laden. I was watching Bill Maher a few weeks ago, catching up on the season and somebody said he lives in a villa in Pakistan. We know where he is, and don't care enough to get him it seems. Besides, war in the Middle East is something that benefits Bush's messianic desires. It's a win-win situation for both.

11-19-2008, 01:05 PM	#7
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	Eh, that won't ever happen as long as Zionists get their way. As long as there are Zionists in high places, I don't see why they would bring him to justice since he provides such great fodder for US and Israeli propaganda.

11-22-2008, 07:02 AM	#9
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	I've heard he's dead too, kidney failure. I wouldn't be surprised, since we only hear from al-Zawahiri.