20 States Move For State Sovereignty

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As the Obama administration attempts to push through Congress a nearly $1 trillion deficit spending plan that is weighted heavily toward advancing typically Democratic-supported social welfare programs, a rebellion against the growing dominance of federal control is beginning to spread at the state level. So far, eight states have introduced resolutions declaring state sovereignty under the Ninth and Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, including Arizona, Hawaii, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, Oklahoma and Washington.
Analysts expect that in addition, another 20 states may see similar measures introduced this year, including Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania.
"What we are trying to do is to get the U.S. Congress out of the state's business," Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Randy Brogdon told WND.

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[kidflash2008]

These are the same states that want part of that money do to their own budget shortfalls. It is funny that two Republican Congressmen who voted against the stimulus package are now touting its benefits to their constituents. These are the same idiots who cried there was no bipartisanship in the negotiations, even though they did get over a third of it devoted to their beloved tax cuts.

[Mingus]

I wish the public could get a look at the stimulus package in it's entirety before it's voted on. This is one of those times where every citizen should vote on this, not just their representatives.

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Originally Posted by kidflash2008

These are the same states that want part of that money do to their own budget shortfalls. It is funny that two Republican Congressmen who voted against the stimulus package are now touting its benefits to their constituents. These are the same idiots who cried there was no bipartisanship in the negotiations, even though they did get over a third of it devoted to their beloved tax cuts.

Fuckin' politicians ey? The good thing is though, these states are taking steps in saying if there is martial law or you try to take our guns, we will go against the fed and claim sovereignty in your state, which is what is suppose to happen.

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I posted in the wrong thread!

[kidflash2008]

Originally Posted by Truthed

Fuckin' politicians ey? The good thing is though, these states are taking steps in saying if there is martial law or you try to take our guns, we will go against the fed and claim sovereignty in your state, which is what is suppose to happen.

I have not heard about the Obama Administration trying to take away guns. In fact one of the problems Progressives (re liberals) have with him is he is a little too pro gun rights. I support the Second Amendment, so President Obama will get no argument from me.

I also find it quite funny that the Republicans are accepting the projects in the stimulus package and even taking credit for them even though they did not vote for it. I have also had enough of the Republicans whining that there was no bipartisanship in the talks, even though President Obama wined and dined the Republicans and gave them what they cried for in the stimulus. I really do think it is time for President Obama to stop working with the Republicans. He one the election, and we gave him the job to do. The Republicans have screwed everything up, and will keep on doing so just to stay in power.

It was funny to watch Rachel Maddow interview a Republican Governor from Minnesota. She asked if he would turn down the money and projects going to that state since he was opposed to the stimulus bill. Of course he said he would take the money, being the political whore that he is.

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Originally Posted by kidflash2008

I have not heard about the Obama Administration trying to take away guns. In fact one of the problems Progressives (re liberals) have with him is he is a little too pro gun rights. I support the Second Amendment, so President Obama will get no argument from me.

The Democrats used the stimulus as a cover up for MORE GUN CONTROL.

"Dear Concerned Citizen,

The liberals are at it again. In a new bill introduced the first day of the present session of Congress, and with zero coverage from the MSM, H.R. 45 (Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009) targets all gun owners in the U.S.A. While the media the world and everyone else is focused on the “phony plan” to spend tax dollars legislation is sneeking through the House and Senate for more gun control.

This nefarious bill seeks to strip us all of our Constitutional Rights to possess and bear firearms of any distinction. It requires, within the first two years, that all new guns be registered. The bill goes retroactive after two years. Meaning that two years after the passage of the bill, ALL FIREARMS in a citizen’s possession must be registered, not just those purchased after the bill passes, and this apparently applies to antique firearms as well.

Every five years the firearm owner must go through a complete renewal process for each weapon owned. Failure to comply carries stiff penalties including confiscation of the firearms and jail time (penalties as high as ten years imprisonment in some cases). The bill also authorizes government searches without warrant, the creation of a federal bureaucracy to monitor firearm possession, etc.

The following is a summary of the bill as provided by the Congressional Research Service. If you read the whole bill, you’ll find it will effectively preclude the ownership of any firearms by law-abiding people unless directly licensed by the Attorney General :

1/6/2009–Introduced. Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

Prohibits:
Transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions;
Licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act;
Failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours;
Failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days;
Keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act. Directs the Attorney General to:
Establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse;
Conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and
Collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer. Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.

Like all other threats against our freedoms, we must rise and defeat this bill, slap it down hard."

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[Truthed]

I too fear Obama will try to take the guns... This is also proven that the public feels the same way. Since the election, gun sales have sky rocketed due to Americans fears of losing the 2nd amendment.

[kidflash2008]

Considering the Supreme Court actually ruled on a case and stated people have a right to bear arms, I do think the worries are unwarranted. Don't forget, the Democrats want to appeal to people in the South and West. There are probably more gun owning Democrats than Republicans.

The Gun and Anti-Gun Lobbies use the same scare tactics to collect more money. That is the way it always will be. The NRA is the most powerful lobby in the United States, and they always get their way.