Has Atlantis been discovered?

TESLATOM · 02-19-2009, 07:56 PM

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Tecnos · 02-20-2009, 03:10 AM

If you have Google Ocean, the co-ordinates are: 31 15'15.53N 24 15'30.53W.

I can't believe that this hasn't been discovered by somebody before! The sea wreck U-136 is just to the north! According to Google Ocean.

Tecnos · 02-20-2009, 03:57 AM

It seems as though Google are dismissing the notion....

Quote:

However, Google are adamant the grid-like image has nothing to do with Atlantis.

A spokeswoman, said: "It's true that many amazing discoveries have been made in Google Earth.

"In this case, however, the image is an artifact of the data collection process, not the city of Atlantis.

"Boats use sonar to take measurements of the seafloor and the lines shown reflect the path of the boat as it gathers the data."

According to Plato's account, written around 355 BC, the city of Atlantis sank to the bottom of the ocean in around 9,700 BC after a huge earthquake.

Many people believe Plato's story is historically accurate but claim he has got the location wrong.

As a result, the search for the fabled city has spanned the globe. Other suggested sites include the Mediterranean, the Black Sea and the Caribbean.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...ff_West_Africa

kidflash2008 · 02-20-2009, 09:11 AM

There are many who think the island of Crete was what Plato was actually referring to. They have discovered an older advanced civilization that was destroyed by a volcano a few hundred years before Plato was born.

I do think there was an advanced ancient civilization, but it may not of been what Plato described.

Tecnos · 02-20-2009, 10:54 AM

I suggest that Atlantis was an ancient South American city. I postulate that trade winds changed for a spell, moving ships way off course and they happed upon the civilisation. In later years when explorers atempted to return, they could not find the civilisations as the prevailing winds had changed back.

Also, as a fan of the KLF, further more known as the JAMs or the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu.....

Has anyone heard of the ancient civilisation of Mu?

The Pacific counterpart to Atlantis.

Mu is supposed to have been a large continent in the middle of the ocean and the home of an advanced civilisation, having sunk beneath the waves many thousands of years ago. The civilisation of Mu is said to have influenced both the Chinese and the native American civilisations, and created the mysterious statues on Easter Island. There’s little to no scientific evidence for this theory, which can be classified as a myth of the ‘wishful thinking’ school.

The idea of Mu first surfaced in the 19th century, in the writings of French antiquarian, traveler and author Augustus Le Plongeon (1825-1908). He claimed to have translated Mayan texts referring to an ancient continent named Mu. When this continent sank into the ocean, its survivors founded the Mayan civilisation.

The Mu idea was popularised in the first half of the 20th century by James Churchward in such speculative books as ‘The Children of Mu’ (1931), ‘The Lost Continent of Mu’ (1933) and ‘The Sacred Symbols of Mu’ (1935). Nowadays, the idea of Mu retains no serious scientific value whatsoever, having been relegated to the sphere of New Age spirituality. In the 1930’s however, Atatürk promoted research on Mu in the hope of establishing connections between Turkey and (other) ancient cultures, even including native American cultures such as Maya and Aztec.

Mu is a popular topic in literature, comics, tv, movies and other fiction. It was used by horror writer H.P. Lovecraft in his Cthulhu books, for example. Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin claimed the symbol on the band’s fourth album (a feather in a circle) was a reference to the Mu.

kidflash2008 · 02-21-2009, 08:58 AM

According to most historians, Mu and Lemuria are not real. They were the fancy of 19th Century writers, when people were quite interested in Egyptians and other ancient societies.

It is possible a very ancient civilizations' survivors did teach the peoples in the Americas how to build those pyramids and other architectural feats. However, whether or not they belonged to what we would call Atlantis or any other mythical place is pure conjecture. I do hope they find a dig to prove an ancient super civilization.

hodjipan · 02-21-2009, 04:09 PM

I think it's way too early to jump to conclusions about what it is and isn't. Definitely worth a closer look though. Could be a colony of sea monkeys.

kidflash2008 · 02-22-2009, 10:10 AM

While Mu and Lemuria may not be real, I would not rule out any very ancient civilizations in the Indus Valley and other Asia-Pacific locations. The problem is where to look, and where to dig since most of the ruins would be under at least 75 feet of dirt. Also, later civilizations would cannibalize the older materials for their buildings.

Mingus · 02-22-2009, 03:56 PM

I believe the lesson here is "don't kill the new people immediately". I wish the Spanish didn't just annihilate the Mayans since they were the only ones who spoke the language and all. They most likely would have been very beneficial to the Spanish - not just economically, but culturally and spiritually too. In a class I'm taking on the subject of drugs (a philosophy class), I've learned that in Mexico, the natives believe that the "magic" mushrooms only grow where the blood or sweat of Christ dropped. This went against the grain of the original evangelists from Spain. They, of course, banned it and annihilated or enslaved them later on. How I hate human history.

kidflash2008 · 02-23-2009, 08:46 AM

I really do hate it when we (and history instructors) put history in our present day morality. It is true slavery and conquering peoples is considered wrong now, but in the time of the Spanish conquest that was a normal thought process. They did it for king and country, and war was a part of their lives. It is wrong for us to sit in moral judgment today for what they did back then.

I am not justifying war or any other historical atrocities. I think we should learn about them so we do not repeat the past.

BTW, in the Spanish colonies, it was common for the Natives and Spanish to inter marry. Many of the traditions were combined, and the Church let much slip in (they did not need any revolts). In the English settlements, inter marriage between Natives and the English was unheard of. Had it been the other way around, think of how history would of turned out.

02-19-2009, 07:56 PM	#1
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02-20-2009, 03:10 AM	#2
Tecnos Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 419	If you have Google Ocean, the co-ordinates are: 31 15'15.53N 24 15'30.53W. I can't believe that this hasn't been discovered by somebody before! The sea wreck U-136 is just to the north! According to Google Ocean. __________________ Last edited by Tecnos; 02-20-2009 at 03:46 AM.

02-20-2009, 10:54 AM	#5
Tecnos Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 419	I suggest that Atlantis was an ancient South American city. I postulate that trade winds changed for a spell, moving ships way off course and they happed upon the civilisation. In later years when explorers atempted to return, they could not find the civilisations as the prevailing winds had changed back. Also, as a fan of the KLF, further more known as the JAMs or the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu..... Has anyone heard of the ancient civilisation of Mu? The Pacific counterpart to Atlantis. Mu is supposed to have been a large continent in the middle of the ocean and the home of an advanced civilisation, having sunk beneath the waves many thousands of years ago. The civilisation of Mu is said to have influenced both the Chinese and the native American civilisations, and created the mysterious statues on Easter Island. There’s little to no scientific evidence for this theory, which can be classified as a myth of the ‘wishful thinking’ school. The idea of Mu first surfaced in the 19th century, in the writings of French antiquarian, traveler and author Augustus Le Plongeon (1825-1908). He claimed to have translated Mayan texts referring to an ancient continent named Mu. When this continent sank into the ocean, its survivors founded the Mayan civilisation. The Mu idea was popularised in the first half of the 20th century by James Churchward in such speculative books as ‘The Children of Mu’ (1931), ‘The Lost Continent of Mu’ (1933) and ‘The Sacred Symbols of Mu’ (1935). Nowadays, the idea of Mu retains no serious scientific value whatsoever, having been relegated to the sphere of New Age spirituality. In the 1930’s however, Atatürk promoted research on Mu in the hope of establishing connections between Turkey and (other) ancient cultures, even including native American cultures such as Maya and Aztec. Mu is a popular topic in literature, comics, tv, movies and other fiction. It was used by horror writer H.P. Lovecraft in his Cthulhu books, for example. Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin claimed the symbol on the band’s fourth album (a feather in a circle) was a reference to the Mu. __________________

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02-20-2009, 09:11 AM	#4
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	There are many who think the island of Crete was what Plato was actually referring to. They have discovered an older advanced civilization that was destroyed by a volcano a few hundred years before Plato was born. I do think there was an advanced ancient civilization, but it may not of been what Plato described.

02-21-2009, 08:58 AM	#6
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	According to most historians, Mu and Lemuria are not real. They were the fancy of 19th Century writers, when people were quite interested in Egyptians and other ancient societies. It is possible a very ancient civilizations' survivors did teach the peoples in the Americas how to build those pyramids and other architectural feats. However, whether or not they belonged to what we would call Atlantis or any other mythical place is pure conjecture. I do hope they find a dig to prove an ancient super civilization.

02-21-2009, 04:09 PM	#7
hodjipan Junior Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 18	I think it's way too early to jump to conclusions about what it is and isn't. Definitely worth a closer look though. Could be a colony of sea monkeys.

02-22-2009, 10:10 AM	#8
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	While Mu and Lemuria may not be real, I would not rule out any very ancient civilizations in the Indus Valley and other Asia-Pacific locations. The problem is where to look, and where to dig since most of the ruins would be under at least 75 feet of dirt. Also, later civilizations would cannibalize the older materials for their buildings.

02-22-2009, 03:56 PM	#9
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	I believe the lesson here is "don't kill the new people immediately". I wish the Spanish didn't just annihilate the Mayans since they were the only ones who spoke the language and all. They most likely would have been very beneficial to the Spanish - not just economically, but culturally and spiritually too. In a class I'm taking on the subject of drugs (a philosophy class), I've learned that in Mexico, the natives believe that the "magic" mushrooms only grow where the blood or sweat of Christ dropped. This went against the grain of the original evangelists from Spain. They, of course, banned it and annihilated or enslaved them later on. How I hate human history.

02-23-2009, 08:46 AM	#10
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	I really do hate it when we (and history instructors) put history in our present day morality. It is true slavery and conquering peoples is considered wrong now, but in the time of the Spanish conquest that was a normal thought process. They did it for king and country, and war was a part of their lives. It is wrong for us to sit in moral judgment today for what they did back then. I am not justifying war or any other historical atrocities. I think we should learn about them so we do not repeat the past. BTW, in the Spanish colonies, it was common for the Natives and Spanish to inter marry. Many of the traditions were combined, and the Church let much slip in (they did not need any revolts). In the English settlements, inter marriage between Natives and the English was unheard of. Had it been the other way around, think of how history would of turned out.