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Old 03-02-2009, 01:06 PM   #1
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Hopes were pinned on him to do everything better than his predecessor. Now liberals are realizing that in many areas, Obama does not substantially differ from Bush. Especially when it comes to protecting his own freedom for action as President of the United States.

Left-leaning idealists in America no longer understand the world. Barack Obama, the President they helped elect, is quickly destroying their hopes that everything would be different than under George W. Bush. Instead, they are experiencing the opposite. When it comes to the issues liberals really care about, Obama has clearly positioned himself on the side of his predecessor.

Specifically, his Justice Department has done it with three opinions on ongoing court cases. They concern, respectively, the rights of detainees abroad, the wire-tapping program against possible al-Qaida sympathizers in the United States, and the protection of the internal White House emails of the Bush administration. With these legal briefs, Barack Obama has ended the illusion that Bush acted against the law. Instead, he has implied that in all three cases, Bush was right.

The brief on the detainees concerned an appeal for release by four prisoners at the U.S. detention center at Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan. Their appeal, submitted while Bush was still in office, was based on a Supreme Court decision in June which had granted prisoners at Guantánamo the right to appeal their detainment. The judge responsible for the Bagram cases held the proceedings until Obama took office, then gave the new administration four weeks to take a position.

Directly before this deadline expired, the Department of Justice announced that those making the appeal had properly been classified as “enemy combatants.” They were not subject to the protections offered by the U.S. Constitution. Representatives from the DoJ hinted that otherwise, all of the foreigners detained by the United States around the world would apply to be released. Detainment of enemy combatants would be made impossible.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which represented the detainees in court, was bowled over. One of the ACLU lawyers said dryly that Obama had confirmed Bush’s position that prisons could be operated outside of the law.

The Justice Department’s opinion on the wire-tapping program concerned the lawsuit of a Muslim charity in San Francisco. The organization had brought the case after its lawyer mistakenly received documents ordering it to be bugged. The lawyer returned the documents, but the leftist court took on the case anyway.

It was the only case in which the top-secret, highly controversial wire-tapping program could have been tried—if only the internal papers had been available as evidence. The judges demanded the documents. President Bush was equally steadfast in his efforts to protect state secrets.

At the beginning of February, the judges threatened consequences if the new administration did not obey. Obama’s Justice Department on Friday confirmed Bush’s position. It filed an expedited motion in a circuit court to topple the case. Its reason: protection of state secrets.

The third case concerned the disclosure of internal White House emails relating to the dismissal of federal judges under Bush. The latter had vetoed demands by Congress to examine the emails because they contained confidential governmental deliberations. Civil rights groups had sued. Obama’s Justice Department has now declared its intent to nullify these cases. Why? To protect confidential governmental deliberations.

On top of all this, an additional negative statement emerged from the White House at the end of last week concerning the “fairness doctrine.” This concept refers to a 1949 law requiring the media to be fair and balanced in its reporting. Ronald Reagan’s administration had had it revoked in the mid-1980s, opening the way for conservative, often fundamentalist radio talk shows, which continue to exert great influence. Leftist radio talk shows typically turn out to be flops.

In Congress efforts are currently being made to reinstate the “fairness doctrine.” Now a speaker for Obama told Fox that the President does not think reinstating the doctrine is a good idea.

In foreign policy Obama is continuing the missile attacks on al-Qaida targets in west Pakistan, extending them even into areas Bush had not allowed to be attacked. Since he took the oath of office there have been three such attacks. He has apparently retained a group of seventy U.S. military consultants to train Pakistani soldiers to fight the Taliban, according to a New York Times report.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton postponed her public criticism of human rights abuses during her first visit to China as Secretary of State. Liberal activists are dismayed.

How much Bush is there in President Obama? A lot, as Bush’s opponents are now shocked to realize. When it comes to protecting his freedom of action, the new president is just as resolute as the old.
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It is not about the president, but about the people pulling his strings, they are still the same people with the same goals, only the package is different.
It looks a lot like how big corporations operate with daughter-companies,
Different image, same product.
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It is not about the president, but about the people pulling his strings, they are still the same people with the same goals, only the package is different.
It looks a lot like how big corporations operate with daughter-companies,
Different image, same product.
Well said. There is no Left and Right, they are all the same.
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It's just another way to make semi-conscious people feel like they have a choice.
The reason this time they put on a Afro-American mask is just an attempt to get that minority under their control.
To me right now there are a few possibilities.
1.) They will have Obama assassinated like they did with JFK, and jump start a new civil war so they can put FEMA to work,
perhaps if the 'Economic Crisis' doesn't achieve that goal...
2.) They will use Obama as a way to enslave the black minority to send even more of them to more illegal and immoral wars, perhaps against Iran, South America or Mexican druglords.
3.) Obama is in fact the Ante-Christ (New Christ, according to better translations of the bible, instead of Anti Christ) as the Propaganda-machines depicted him before he was elected as president. (Perhaps a less likely option, but I wouldn't rule it out.) :P
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I think Obama is just an NWO puppet that they places in their to be seen as the messiah so they can get their agenda passed, or try too. He is already trying to disarm the people... I think the NWO is going for broke with Obama, i am liking the fact that the people/states are waking up and not allowing it.

I hope I am wrong, but so far i don't see Obama being a JFK and fighting the NWO
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I HOPE you are all wrong about Obama because he talks a good game.by the way he`s only been in office one and a half months and so far he`s really shaking things up!.....a guy i work with once told me"YOU CAN`T VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE WANTS TO TAX AMMUNITION"...I looked at him,said nothing,and walked away.....
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You know, I waffle a lot on guns. Yeah, the danger exists that the government may be full of complete assholes who will use force to rule; but, Chris Rock brings up a good point when he says that bullets should cost $5,000 because it will make a person think about it before they do it. They would have to be really committed to shooting somebody then.
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Considering the Justice Department has just released a group of memos that basically gave President Bush Carte Blanc over the Constitution, I have hope for this Administration that things will be different. They do seem to be more open than the last one. Also, they did state that the only American held as a combat detainee will get a trial in the civilian court system.

The liberals have to realize that their most liberal candidate was John Edwards, who would of lost the election big time because he cheated on his wife while she was recovering from cancer. Not very forgivable by the voting public.
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