Teen Gunman Kills 16 In Germany

Truthed · 03-11-2009, 08:51 AM

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WINNENDEN, Germany (CNN) -- A gunman dressed in military gear killed 16 people Wednesday in a shooting spree in Germany before he was shot dead by police, police spokesman Rainer Kloeller told CNN.
Tim Kretschmer, 17, began his rampage at a school where he used to be a student in Winnenden, a small town about 20 kilometers (12 miles) northeast of Stuttgart, said KIoeller, of the police in the nearby town of Waiblingen.
"The suspect broke into the school. He went into the classroom and shot wildly around himself and left the building and fled on foot," Hans Ulrich Stuiber, another police spokesman, said.
Three teachers and 10 students were killed at the Albertville-Realschule Winnenden school, Kloeller said. The shooting, which began around 9:45 a.m. (4:45 a.m. EDT), lasted about two minutes, police said. Kretschmer fired shots into three classrooms, Kloeller said.
On his way out of the school, the gunman killed a person who was working in a hospital nearby, then hijacked a car, taking the driver hostage.
He drove to the nearby town of Wendlingen, where he let the driver go, Kloeller said. The driver alerted the police.
Kretschmer was spotted by police in Wendlingen at around 12:20 p.m. (7:20 a.m. EDT) and shot two of them, injuring them. He then killed two more people before being killed himself in a shootout with police, authorities said
Kretschmer was on the loose for three and a half hours after the incident began, police said.

Truthed · 03-11-2009, 08:52 AM

This is a horrible tragedy, and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. I have to say, this following the Alabama shootings, I hope Obama does not use this to push further gun ban policies!

motazor · 03-11-2009, 10:00 AM

It took three and a half hours for someone with a gun to stop him. All it would have taken was one person at the school, at the hospital, or the driver with a gun to stop him. So I'm with you on this one - I hope Obama doesn't use this case to push banning guns.

Truthed · 03-11-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by motazor

It took three and a half hours for someone with a gun to stop him. All it would have taken was one person at the school, at the hospital, or the driver with a gun to stop him. So I'm with you on this one - I hope Obama doesn't use this case to push banning guns.

Exactly, in Germany they have gun bans (from what im told if im wrong please correct me). And that just makes things like this worse. If someone else had a gun they could fight back, otherwise they are helpless.

kidflash2008 · 03-11-2009, 10:38 AM

I wonder if the boy was taking psychological drugs. All of our teen killers in the US were taking Ritalin or some other psych drug, but they never reported it in the media.

We give our children poison, it changes their minds and warps their thinking. They then go out and indiscriminately kill, and we want to kill them with the death penalty instead of going after the giant pharmaceutical industry for pushing their pills on our children. The whole situation is sad, and I think Jim Marrs' book "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" has a lot to say on this particular subject.

Area-51 · 03-11-2009, 11:25 AM

Wow, this news even managed to be posted on truthed.

but yeah, it's horrible. what kind of things have to go through someones mind to go on rampage on a school

Truthed · 03-11-2009, 11:27 AM

Well i think Kidflash brings up a good point. So far all these kids have been on mind altering drugs prescribed by their doctors...

kidflash2008 · 03-12-2009, 09:46 AM

Columbine, The Springfield Oregon shooting and all the others that made the news had one thing in common: The perpetrators were on some kind of medication for ADHD, the made up ailment. One has to look hard in the news reports to find the information, but it is all there. The big pharmaceuticals will do their best to cover this explosive story up, but hopefully more people will become aware before doping their children.

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Truthed Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,079	This is a horrible tragedy, and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. I have to say, this following the Alabama shootings, I hope Obama does not use this to push further gun ban policies! __________________ "You Want To Believe" http://www.truthed.com truthed@truthed.com

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Truthed Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,079	Well i think Kidflash brings up a good point. So far all these kids have been on mind altering drugs prescribed by their doctors... __________________ "You Want To Believe" http://www.truthed.com truthed@truthed.com

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03-11-2009, 10:00 AM	#3
motazor Junior Investigator Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 21	It took three and a half hours for someone with a gun to stop him. All it would have taken was one person at the school, at the hospital, or the driver with a gun to stop him. So I'm with you on this one - I hope Obama doesn't use this case to push banning guns.

03-11-2009, 10:38 AM	#5
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	I wonder if the boy was taking psychological drugs. All of our teen killers in the US were taking Ritalin or some other psych drug, but they never reported it in the media. We give our children poison, it changes their minds and warps their thinking. They then go out and indiscriminately kill, and we want to kill them with the death penalty instead of going after the giant pharmaceutical industry for pushing their pills on our children. The whole situation is sad, and I think Jim Marrs' book "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" has a lot to say on this particular subject.

03-11-2009, 11:25 AM	#6
Area-51 Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 459	Wow, this news even managed to be posted on truthed. but yeah, it's horrible. what kind of things have to go through someones mind to go on rampage on a school

03-12-2009, 09:46 AM	#8
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	Columbine, The Springfield Oregon shooting and all the others that made the news had one thing in common: The perpetrators were on some kind of medication for ADHD, the made up ailment. One has to look hard in the news reports to find the information, but it is all there. The big pharmaceuticals will do their best to cover this explosive story up, but hopefully more people will become aware before doping their children.