Breaching Area-51

Area-51 · 12-29-2008, 10:58 AM

I found a video on youtube, which shows to ladies breaching the security perimeters of Groom Lake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Nt0jgGNek

Mingus · 12-29-2008, 06:05 PM

Yep, and lucky for them they didn't get shot at, unlike the doom the signs usually portend.

Area-51 · 12-30-2008, 01:49 AM

True

kidflash2008 · 12-30-2008, 09:34 AM

They are private security, and they may not have that authorization. The main goal is to just get people to turn around, and not get hurt if they accidentally drive into the bombing range which has unexploded ordinances. The video has been getting a lot of play, and people speculate all kinds of things happening to the women. The truth is, they were told they had entered a military area and were asked to leave.

Area-51 · 12-30-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kidflash2008

The truth is, they were told they had entered a military area and were asked to leave.

Well, how do you know this. I don´t think, that they just were asked to leave the area. It is ha highly secured base. you can´t just ride in and out as you want to.

I´m sorry (and I don´t want to attack you oryour meanig about this issue), but I don´t buy the story, that these women drive into the area and were asked to leave. It´s like:,, Yeah you drove into a higly secured military area, would you please turn around and leave, Thank you."

Mingus · 12-30-2008, 08:24 PM

Now that Area 51 is public knowledge (thanks to a lawsuit claiming toxic chemicals were disposed of improperly and caused health problems) they cannot do the same things they would have been able to get away with before, such as shooting on sight without any questions being asked. The facility technically now exists as an part of the US government in the eyes of the law and is under their jurisdiction as such.

What this means is that, yes, they do now have to ask them to turn around and leave the restricted area. Otherwise, it's a congressional hearing waiting to happen.

kidflash2008 · 12-31-2008, 10:13 AM

1. I was in the military for eleven years and worked in the flight line. (I know of what I speak!)
2. I know all the correct procedures when it comes to unauthorized entry. Had the women ventured onto a nuclear site or a restricted area (the ones with deadly force), they would of had weapons pointed at them and would be made to eat the dirt. Considering where they did drive (I have seen the video), I know the process that was used. The security personnel will ask for IDs, and where the women are going. They will then tell them they have entered the unauthorized area, and will escort them out of there. If they create a problem, the sheriff is called and they would be arrested for trespassing.
3. You are correct about not being able to ride in and out of an unauthorized area. However, the security team is trained to deal with every conceivable situation. Unless there was an imminent threat, they acted as normal officers of the peace do. They are told to be polite, but be curt.

Area-51 · 01-01-2009, 11:18 AM

now you convinced me, that you are right, kidflash. I didn´t know, that you served in the military.

Very good arguments. you truly know what you´re talking about.

kidflash2008 · 01-02-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Area-51

now you convinced me, that you are right, kidflash. I didn´t know, that you served in the military.

Very good arguments. you truly know what you´re talking about.

It does help to have different experience to tell it like it is and separate the facts from the fiction. Too many sites and threads on such sites state what they deem as facts and have never checked on them. I didn't mean to come down hard on you, but just wanted you to know a little about the procedures. When you go to other sites, you will be able to raise a Bullshit flag when someone states something that is wrong.
I do agree my military past comes in handy, but there usually are many other veterans out there who correct (or try to) what is being stated.

Area-51 · 01-03-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kidflash2008

I didn't mean to come down hard on you, but just wanted you to know a little about the procedures.

No no, don´t worry, I think it´s great if you cut the bullsh*t and come with some serious arguments. I didn´t know anything aboutn this whole security thing, just guessed, you know. And if someone like you a military background is able to tell me the real thing, than I´m thankfull for it.

So, it´s all good

12-29-2008, 10:58 AM	#1
Area-51 Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 459	Breaching Area-51 I found a video on youtube, which shows to ladies breaching the security perimeters of Groom Lake. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Nt0jgGNek

12-31-2008, 10:13 AM	#7
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	1. I was in the military for eleven years and worked in the flight line. (I know of what I speak!) 2. I know all the correct procedures when it comes to unauthorized entry. Had the women ventured onto a nuclear site or a restricted area (the ones with deadly force), they would of had weapons pointed at them and would be made to eat the dirt. Considering where they did drive (I have seen the video), I know the process that was used. The security personnel will ask for IDs, and where the women are going. They will then tell them they have entered the unauthorized area, and will escort them out of there. If they create a problem, the sheriff is called and they would be arrested for trespassing. 3. You are correct about not being able to ride in and out of an unauthorized area. However, the security team is trained to deal with every conceivable situation. Unless there was an imminent threat, they acted as normal officers of the peace do. They are told to be polite, but be curt. Last edited by kidflash2008; 12-31-2008 at 10:14 AM. Reason: edited to add

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12-29-2008, 06:05 PM	#2
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	Yep, and lucky for them they didn't get shot at, unlike the doom the signs usually portend.

12-30-2008, 01:49 AM	#3
Area-51 Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 459	True

12-30-2008, 09:34 AM	#4
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	They are private security, and they may not have that authorization. The main goal is to just get people to turn around, and not get hurt if they accidentally drive into the bombing range which has unexploded ordinances. The video has been getting a lot of play, and people speculate all kinds of things happening to the women. The truth is, they were told they had entered a military area and were asked to leave.

12-30-2008, 08:24 PM	#6
Mingus Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 325	Now that Area 51 is public knowledge (thanks to a lawsuit claiming toxic chemicals were disposed of improperly and caused health problems) they cannot do the same things they would have been able to get away with before, such as shooting on sight without any questions being asked. The facility technically now exists as an part of the US government in the eyes of the law and is under their jurisdiction as such. What this means is that, yes, they do now have to ask them to turn around and leave the restricted area. Otherwise, it's a congressional hearing waiting to happen.

01-01-2009, 11:18 AM	#8
Area-51 Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 459	now you convinced me, that you are right, kidflash. I didn´t know, that you served in the military. Very good arguments. you truly know what you´re talking about.