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Old 07-30-2009, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default Monster Quest on Unidetified Flying Humaniods

This is one of the most interesting programs of this show. It actually has evidence that turned up some very unusual results. The episode dealt with many sightings of humanoid type creatures that appear to fly without the aid of wings. Videos of these sightings were examined, and some very good eyewitness accounts also were shown. The Mexican policeman was quite terrified with his encounter of the female flying humanoid. My problem was he did not have a sketch or drawing done of it to give us a look.

The videos were not faked (no CGI), but one researcher thinks many of them could be balloons. He actually tied up some balloons and wrapped balloons in a garbage bag. The result resembled a lot of the videos shown. It did not prove they were all balloons, but did show that could be an answer for most of the videos. Many of the videos that were analyzed were not good enough to really make out what was seen. The cameras were not of the best quality and the shakiness of the video did not help.

The best evidence came from the find of a tiny body that was in a trap. (This has been seen all over the internet.) The body does not look human and had never been subjected to tests. It may possibly be a baby of the flying humanoids, although where it came from is in question. The tip of the tail was snipped off for DNA testing. They could not get any real DNA from the body. There was evidence of a skin like substance, and the forensic scientists all agreed the body was not fake. MRI scanning did reveal a lot of detail of the creature, and in the end all the scientists agreed it was an unknown creature. Was it alien? They could not conclude that, even though they were surprised they could not get any DNA from it as they would any Earth based creature.

One of the best episodes to date.
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:12 AM   #2
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The photo, and a complete report, was posted in early may. Permission was granted by Jamie Maussan. However, since then, I have been contacted by a party, claiming copyright ownership, that asked for the image to be removed. Shortly afterward, Maussan contacted me and asked me to remove both the report and the image since scientists involved did not want the attention to influence the perception of their results.

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IN FEBRUARY OF 2009, I was a speaker at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada. This is the largest UFO conference in the world. At this event, Mexican journalist and mystery investigator Jaime Maussan made an astounding announcement. It was the buzz of the entire event.

Jaime showed photos of a creature that had recently been captured in Mexico. He said scientific studies had demonstrated this was no hoax, and no creature known to science. We, in the audience, were given the special opportunity to see the initial evidence. However, he was not ready to release any of the images publicly until the research progressed further. I followed the story. And now, for the first time, I have been given permission, by Jaime, to show you one photo (of two in my possession) online and share the following facts, as I have interpreted them, according to him. The story is still incomplete, and many questions remain, but here is what I have so far:

Sometime around May 11, 2007, a wealthy Mexican rancher named Marao Lopez found this creature, less than one foot tall, in a steel trap. The property was in Metepec, a suburb of Toluca, the state capital of Mexico State in Mexico. There was no vast wilderness or jungle nearby, making the find even stranger.

The creature was alive, shrieking and scared. A small group of men took it back to the ranch. They marveled over it and took many photographs. The creature was found around 5pm in the evening, and (for reasons not yet made clear) the ranchers decided to kill and preserve it the morning of the third day, approx. 36 hours later. They dunked it in water for a few minutes, but it emerged alive, still screaming. They dunked it a second time--longer, but it again regained consciousness. They dunked it a third time, for many hours, and it finally drowned. It's ability to survive so long underwater has made many feel it was amphibious.

Within days, word about the strange creature had gotten to Jaime. As it turns out, one of the two best witnesses who observed the creature alive was a man Jaime knew well and trusted. In fact, Jaime had known the man since the man was a child. This witness swore that, while alive, the creature looked exactly as it appears in the photo you see--hairless and anguished.
Jaime considered Marao Lopez an honorable man. Since Lopez was wealthy, and money was never mentioned as a variable in this situation, Jaime sees no motivation for a hoax. Jaime requested access to the body, now mummifying, for tests at various universities. Around this period of time, Marao Lopez died mysteriously. He was reportedly found in a burned car on the side of the road, charred to a crisp. The temperature of the fire supposedly far exceeded that of a normal car wreck. Jaime says "he was assassinated," but does not know whether or not the death of Lopez is related to the creature. Apparently, details regarding the death are still not clear, and shrouded in local issues.

As Jaime arranged various tests, Lopez's widow retained primary physical possession of the creature until late in 2008. At that time, she gave it to Jaime to pursue more thorough examinations. Jaime says "this is very serious," and he has been patient and careful in how news of the creature is released, building the most solid scientific database before presenting it to the world.

He said the first group of scientists, from a local university, to see the creature, consisted of an "anthropologist, a patologist, a foresinc expert, an odontologist [sic]." There was crude DNA analysis done, and there was no match with any creature on file. At that time, two of the experts speculated this could be a "skinned monkey." However, they conceded that it bore characteristics that did not match a monkey. It's number of teeth, type of teeth, and number of bones in the spine did not match a primate. The teeth also did not have roots (like some reptiles and fish), and the ankle section looked entirely human.

Around mid-April, 2009, Jaime took the specimen to Dr. Jesus Higuera, head of the Imaging Department at the Mexican Institute of Nutrition. There, the mummified creature was scanned with the best 3-D computer tomography on the continent, for a thorough look inside the body. Jaime says Dr. Higuera "was absolutely amazed." Compared to the skull, he said the back of the brain was larger, and more sophisticated, than any other creature known. There was no explanation for the specimen, and the scientist concluded it was definitely not a primate, and probably a new species. Jaime says Higuera's staff feels this is in fact an adult, as opposed to an infant, as originally presumed due to its stature. Jaime said it was most likely a "very smart creature."

Now, the creature has been sent to Spain, undergoing the best DNA analysis in the world by one of the field's top experts, Dr. Jose Antonio Lorente of the University of Granada. As soon as the results are finalized, and all facts are compiled, there will be a world press conference in Spain, Mexico, or both, to unveil all the findings for the full scrutiny of the scientific community.
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That Dr. Lorente said he has never heard of Jaime Maussán and that nothing of the sort has been sent to him, nor does he know if it is ever going to be. He also clarifies that he is an expert in human DNA, therefore even if he did receive a sample he would only be able to tell if it was human or not, but could hardly do much if it wasn’t, especially if it wasn’t of a known species.
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ufowatchdog.com is simply amazed at how anyone could give self proclaimed UFO investigator Jaime Maussan any credibility. Maussan has a long history and track record of promoting and endorsing one UFO hoax after another. But, for whatever reason, Maussan somehow remains a darling of the UFO community. Frankly, it is the opinion of this website that Maussan's UFO antics and baseless claims have done the field much harm and he is an embarassment to serious investigation. Maussan appears to be much more interested in sensationalism than in doing any actual investigative work. For a guy boasting that he is the Mike Wallace of Mexico, it sure doesn't show. Here a few samples of Maussan's so-called UFO investigative work and some of the outlandish claims he has made and that people have paid to hear...
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:12 PM   #3
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UFO Watchdog does give Senor Maussan the business on their site. I think it was a very good thing for him to allow testing of the body. The photo makes it look much bigger than it is. Many of the questionable researchers usually "lose" or will not allow any type of testing of such artifacts. I think Sr Maussan should get credit for allowing the tests to be done.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:39 AM   #4
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You're right, the above photo makes the tiny creature look much bigger than it is. I've taken a screenshot from the show.





I don't watch Monster Quest, is it credible?
What animal is that trap designed for? They could have used a mouse trap.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:15 AM   #5
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Monster Quest will actually take the evidence they find and test it at very credible and reliable sources. Many of the episodes do disappoint some people as the DNA turns out to be some other type of creature.

In India, the wild man (Bigfoot type creature) that attacked city dwellers had left some DNA. Testing found it to be human. The Texas Chupacabra turned out to be a dog.

The show does recreate the eyewitness accounts accurately as they use the real people involved. The show is not as sensational as UFO Hunters tends to be, and that can be a good thing when real evidence such as this case brings up.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:34 PM   #6
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I think that a few tequila buddies had too much to drink one night and came up with a great idea.

I would like to see what trap experts think about that trap.
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It was stated to be a trap for rodents on the show. It does look like a bear trap because of how the photo was taken. The creature was purported to be alive when the photo was taken.

It does look like something out of an episode of "Tales from the Dark Side".
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That's an interesting one, I'll say that. I'm not a huge fan of Monsterquest because the presentation is so dry as to be outright boring in many cases, and as often as not, what we get is a bunch of scientists on film walking in the wilderness.

Admittedly, too much flash detracts from the quality of information they give, but at the same time, with little in the way of presentation or television presence, it lacks a certain amount of the entertainment factor necessary for a good show.
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I usually enjoy the show but do agree with the way it can be presented. I usually like the personal encounter experiences. The physical evidence part usually (not always) ends up being disappointing. This is one of the few episodes where they had something quite unusual.
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That trap is actually a rodent trap; I have several of them.

The style and manufacture is identical to that of a larger bear trap, with the exception of having no teeth on the inside of the jaws. Designed for small rodents, (such as rats,) just a different style than the standard "Tom and Jerry" mouse trap.

As far as the scale of it, looking at the picture of the creature caught in it, and knowing how big those traps are, and then seeing the picture of the creature in the investigators hands, the scale seems right.

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