Dead Salmon 'Responds' to Pictures of People

vr_don · 09-29-2009, 04:27 PM

A dead fish's brain supposedly lit up when shown pictures of humans during a brain scan.

LINK

kidflash2008 · 09-30-2009, 09:37 AM

Actually, the test was to show that brain scans are not perfect. The fish was swimming with the fishes, so to speak.

vr_don · 09-30-2009, 11:49 AM

Yeah. The title made me read the article.

banannabell · 09-30-2009, 12:41 PM

Sooooo, the fish who is dead, can't see, was shown a photo? Makes total sence lol. How many millions of tax payer's cash whent into this study I wonder.

kidflash2008 · 10-01-2009, 10:24 AM

the scan shows a tiny bit of activity. The study was made to show some scans may have small errors like that. They use these tests to calibrate the scanners so they can be more accurate. Tax money was not wasted on this one.

I have CT scans done every once in a while and appreciate the need for accuracy.

banannabell · 10-01-2009, 10:33 AM

At least I feel better about ,oney not being wasted. There are lots of needless studies performed that spend millions, and come up with an obvious answer that took no brains at all.

TheNugzMan · 01-19-2010, 01:40 AM

I would consider this an anomaly instead of an error....An error would be if the fishes liver lit under the brain scan. But the BRAIN scan showed activity in the BRAIN. Whether or not there was activity, the "activity" was in the right place. Until we fully understand what happens to the body and brain after death we can't just call things like this an error. Don't get me wrong, the situation is most likely just as described in the article, but it is so easy to just write things off as an error rather than try to explain them.

$$kneel-B4-me$$ · 01-19-2010, 05:24 AM

well.. fishes are very dumb and their long term memory is almost none existant..maybe the fish forgot he was dead. lol

Clifurd · 01-19-2010, 02:54 PM

OH, okay, I get it. Well then that does prove that brain scans have errors. People still seem confused though. The fish is doing nothing. It is dead, the machine that scanned it had an error and showed brain activity.

TheNugzMan · 01-19-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Clifurd

OH, okay, I get it. Well then that does prove that brain scans have errors. People still seem confused though. The fish is doing nothing. It is dead, the machine that scanned it had an error and showed brain activity.

But how do you know it had an error? I'm not saying that there was any activity but this is exactly what my last post was referring to. Instantly its Oh its dead, its an error....If it were a 100% undeniable error, what are the odds of the brain activity showing in the brain of the dead fish rather than lets say the stomach. If there is absolutely no activity in the body of the animal, then the placement of the "activity" could have been anywhere, but it wasn't, it was in the brain. If there was no activity, how did the machine know where the brain was? Once again, I'm not sayine there was activity but I get anoyed when people just brush everything off as an error. There are things we don't understand in this world and death is one of them.

09-29-2009, 04:27 PM	#1
vr_don Investigator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 195	Dead Salmon 'Responds' to Pictures of People A dead fish's brain supposedly lit up when shown pictures of humans during a brain scan. LINK

09-30-2009, 12:41 PM	#4
banannabell Investigator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: all over Posts: 150	Sooooo, the fish who is dead, can't see, was shown a photo? Makes total sence lol. How many millions of tax payer's cash whent into this study I wonder. __________________ "Think you've seen it all? Think again. Outside those doors, we might see anything. We could find new worlds, terrifying monsters, impossible things. And if you come with me... nothing will ever be the same again!" The Doctor:

10-01-2009, 10:33 AM	#6
banannabell Investigator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: all over Posts: 150	At least I feel better about ,oney not being wasted. There are lots of needless studies performed that spend millions, and come up with an obvious answer that took no brains at all. __________________ "Think you've seen it all? Think again. Outside those doors, we might see anything. We could find new worlds, terrifying monsters, impossible things. And if you come with me... nothing will ever be the same again!" The Doctor:

01-19-2010, 05:24 AM	#8
$$kneel-B4-me$$ Investigator Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 148	well.. fishes are very dumb and their long term memory is almost none existant..maybe the fish forgot he was dead. lol __________________ Dark for fear of failure, an inner gloom as wide as an eye and fermenting roiling hate, death grip in my veins.. unveiling rancid petals flowering forth foul nector, the space between a blink and a tear... Death blooms

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09-30-2009, 09:37 AM	#2
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	Actually, the test was to show that brain scans are not perfect. The fish was swimming with the fishes, so to speak.

09-30-2009, 11:49 AM	#3
vr_don Investigator Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 195	Yeah. The title made me read the article.

10-01-2009, 10:24 AM	#5
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	the scan shows a tiny bit of activity. The study was made to show some scans may have small errors like that. They use these tests to calibrate the scanners so they can be more accurate. Tax money was not wasted on this one. I have CT scans done every once in a while and appreciate the need for accuracy.

01-19-2010, 01:40 AM	#7
TheNugzMan Junior Investigator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 52	I would consider this an anomaly instead of an error....An error would be if the fishes liver lit under the brain scan. But the BRAIN scan showed activity in the BRAIN. Whether or not there was activity, the "activity" was in the right place. Until we fully understand what happens to the body and brain after death we can't just call things like this an error. Don't get me wrong, the situation is most likely just as described in the article, but it is so easy to just write things off as an error rather than try to explain them.

01-19-2010, 02:54 PM	#9
Clifurd Junior Investigator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 61	OH, okay, I get it. Well then that does prove that brain scans have errors. People still seem confused though. The fish is doing nothing. It is dead, the machine that scanned it had an error and showed brain activity.