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Old 03-09-2009, 10:24 AM   #1
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Default Non religious belief up in the United States

A new poll (taken in 2008) released on the United States religious beliefs found over 15% of people describe themselves as no religion or belief. Another 5% did not know or care, and that equals over 20% who do not want to identify or have no religion.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religio...ion-ARIS_N.htm

Pagans and other religious/spiritual beliefs are still small, but many are growing. The Muslims have doubled since the last poll in 1990.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:32 PM   #2
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No doubt. Americans are becoming like those Yourapeeins!
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Old 03-12-2009, 03:19 PM   #3
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Never mind 'non-religious belief in the US'

This is Islamic belief in England!

By way of population.

Bearing in mind, this is ostensibly a 'Christian' country!

In England, 40% of Muslims live in London, where they make up 8.5% of the population. There are also large numbers of Muslims in Birmingham, Manchester, Bradford, Luton, Slough, Leicester and the mill towns of Northern England.

I live in Northern England!

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The creeping Islamification of this country!

* London Borough of Tower Hamlets 36.4% 71,389
* London Borough of Newham 24.3% 59,293
* Blackburn with Darwen 19.4% 26,674
* City of Bradford 16.1% 75,188
* London Borough of Waltham Forest 15.1% 32,902
* Luton 14.6% 26,963
* Birmingham 14.3% 139,771
* London Borough of Hackney 13.8% 27,908
* Pendle 13.4% 11,988
* Slough 13.4% 15,897
* London Borough of Brent 12.3% 32,290
* London Borough of Redbridge 11.9% 28,487
* City of Westminster 11.8% 21,346
* London Borough of Camden 11.6% 22,906
* London Borough of Haringey 11.3% 24,371
* Metropolitan Borough of Oldham 11.1% 24,039
* Leicester 11.0% 30,885
* London Borough of Ealing 10.3% 31,033
* Kirklees 10.1% 39,312
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:10 AM   #4
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Never mind 'non-religious belief in the US'

This is Islamic belief in England!

By way of population.

Bearing in mind, this is ostensibly a 'Christian' country!

In England, 40% of Muslims live in London, where they make up 8.5% of the population. There are also large numbers of Muslims in Birmingham, Manchester, Bradford, Luton, Slough, Leicester and the mill towns of Northern England.

I live in Northern England!

*statement edited*

The creeping Islamification of this country!

* London Borough of Tower Hamlets 36.4% 71,389
* London Borough of Newham 24.3% 59,293
* Blackburn with Darwen 19.4% 26,674
* City of Bradford 16.1% 75,188
* London Borough of Waltham Forest 15.1% 32,902
* Luton 14.6% 26,963
* Birmingham 14.3% 139,771
* London Borough of Hackney 13.8% 27,908
* Pendle 13.4% 11,988
* Slough 13.4% 15,897
* London Borough of Brent 12.3% 32,290
* London Borough of Redbridge 11.9% 28,487
* City of Westminster 11.8% 21,346
* London Borough of Camden 11.6% 22,906
* London Borough of Haringey 11.3% 24,371
* Metropolitan Borough of Oldham 11.1% 24,039
* Leicester 11.0% 30,885
* London Borough of Ealing 10.3% 31,033
* Kirklees 10.1% 39,312
Very interesting ...
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:04 AM   #5
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The United States does not have a recognized or state religion like the United Kingdom. I think the addition of the Islamic population is making the status quo nervous because they may have to separate church and state.

Tecnos, do taxpayers in England help support the Church of England? I don't know if that is true anymore, and if you could help clarify the Church's role, that would be helpful.
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And separation of Church and State is a bad thing because.....?
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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...+St/article.do

A Muslim fundamentalist leader today told of his vision of Britain under Sharia law.

Anjem Choudary said he wanted the “flag of Allah” flying over Downing Street, all women wearing burkas and caning for drunkenness.

He is the leader of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah, founded as a successor to the banned fundamentalist sect al-Muhajiroun, which was led by now-exiled preacher Omar Bakri Muhammad.

The self-proclaimed Sharia judge admitted his followers had organised protests against British soldiers in Luton this week, waving placards which called them “murderers” for their conduct in Iraq.

Mr Choudary, a 41-year-old lawyer, said he was proud to be reviled. “It's inevitable that when you offer an alternative morality and way of life many people will hate you for it.”

He said this “alternative morality” would mean “a pure Islamic state with Sharia law in Britain” and added: “Every woman, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, would have to wear a traditional burka and cover everything apart from her face and hands in public.”

“In matters to do with the judicial system and the penal code, one male witness is sufficient to counter the testimony of two females. People who commit adultery would be stoned to death.”

Mr Choudary, a father of three, admitted he lived off benefits despite objecting to the British state. He rejected suggestions of hypocrisy, saying: “I don't think it's of any importance.”
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And separation of Church and State is a bad thing because.....?
Read what Constantine states in his post. There is a good reason for separation of church and state. I am a Pagan and would not want any other church to impose its belief on me, just as I do not impose me beliefs on them. I also do not want my tax dollars to support any other religion out there. I do not want the religious right, be they Muslim or Christian to impose their puritanical views as law.

Added: Mingus was just being sarcastic, and I apologize to him. However, I do stand by the post for those who are serious about that statement.

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I was being really sarcastic. I totally support separation of Church and State.
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I was being really sarcastic. I totally support separation of Church and State.
You should put in one of those sarcasm smilies! There are many people here who may take what you stated seriously (and I should have known better as I have read many of your posts.) Sorry about that, and I will try to distinguish the sarcasm from the serious better.
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