The US Air Force Roswell report

kidflash2008 · 04-13-2009, 10:59 AM

It seems that a major theory in the USAF report debunking Roswell is unraveling:

http://www.ufocon.blogspot.com/

Kevin Randle also has a blog on the story and what he said when the USAF interviewed him:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2009...d-project.html

The interesting part on behalf of Major Kevin Randle is he interviewed many high ranking officers who new about or were at the site of the crash. As an officer in the USAF in the past and current Army Guard major, Maj Randle has an inside take on his interviews that many of the civilian researchers do not.

I also try to put my military career in perspective and what I know about military red tape when I read about the Roswell crash. One of my many questions is why would such high ranking flag officers fly to Roswell over the crash of a balloon? The balloon and material itself was not classified, just Project Mogul. Why did pilots fly the debris to Wright-Patterson on a special flight? The debris would have been dealt with using normal supply channels at the time, not given any special treatment. All of that is documented and known. The researchers should be reading between the lines and asking those types of questions. To me, those usually mundane facts lead me to believe something out of this world crashed at Roswell.

Tecnos · 04-13-2009, 11:59 AM

Why does it always seem to be 'one step forward and two steps back'?

I'm with an open mind with regard to Roswell (in fact, I'm not), I believe that Roswell was a failed experiment about attaching bombs to high altitude balloons to float them over enemy airspace.

Roswell became the benchmark standard for conspiracists all over the globe.....

BUT.....

Big BUT.....

WHY..... are UFO sightings (with reasonably good pictures and/or video) becoming more prevalent?

Until the '70's UFO sightings were synonymous with missile bases......or test facilities.....

This has now changed!

There is now the 'evidence' that the sightings are in suburbia, over the oceans or over the mountains.....

In one respect, the Manhattan Project announced to the Galaxy that Earth was now a nuclear power. Did that attract attention to our blue planet? Or did it nurture a culture between the 'super societies' that 'political spinning' of the threat of alien invasion was less of a threat to the Hoi Polloi than the threat of nuclear attack?

Whichever way you spin it, there are UFO's....

And until a government actually spells the truth out, it will always be speculation!

In MY opinion, Roswell was a diversion, however there are other less published incidents where the TRUTH will be found.

Reading through the many reports from: pilots, military staff, lackeys and especially declassified documents.... http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

There is definately something out there.....

kidflash2008 · 04-14-2009, 10:50 AM

Roswell was not a diversion. It is important because the base actually had a press release claiming they had found a disk. A disk is NOT a balloon, and the officers and servicemen and women assigned to the base knew that. They worked with balloons all the time, and had seen them when they landed.

Roswell is a case where there were no real steps in place to deal with a possible craft from another world crashing to Earth. Add to that the testimony of some high ranking officers that has come out about what landed, and one has a very good case.

The questions I have pondered point out that something extraordinary happened in the Roswell area during the summer of 1947. There was no cover-up back then, as the Roswell incident is considered the first real case of a crashed disk.

Many skeptics including renowned debunker Phillip Klass wondered why the Air Force would go out of its way to do a report on Roswell in the 1990s. If they thought nothing had happened, why bring attention to it? Also, the report omitted all the testimony of officers who claimed to know about the craft and bodies. Only the officers who kept to the story that there was nothing to Roswell were interviewed.

The Roswell case will not go away because it is the most important event in ufology history. The US government has an extraterrestrial craft in their possession. The way that I found this out was to read between the lines and look at all the reports on what took place in the time frame. I give the military kudos for doing a good job of covering it up, but there are still many, many clues out there as to what happened. Unfortunately for the military, the base commander approved the press release of the crashed disk story. If you read Major Randle's blog on the story, the officer in charge of the report was offered names and addresses of officers who claimed to have witnessed events, but declined. He wanted Major Randle to admit he was only in it for the money.

The story of Roswell is far from over.

wallarookiller · 05-21-2009, 08:47 PM

I love the roswell case because of the statements made and then taken away. Maybe it was a cover up of something sneeky the government was doing or maybe it really was more but it sure makes people think about not trusting what they hear and read. which makes all the difference now.

kidflash2008 · 05-23-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TESLATOM

I refuse to believe that these flying machines that defy the laws
of physics are capable of crashing, especially on planet Earth.

The thing to remember is nothing is always perfect. We have had two shuttle accidents since starting the program, and there have been other accidents with the older rocket system. I do think crashes are much rarer than what is reported, but they do crash every once in a while.

kidflash2008 · 05-25-2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TESLATOM

Are you comparing reusable liquid propellant rocket engines
with anti gravity propulsion?

Unlock the secrets of gravity and you are very close to perfection.

While the systems may be close to perfection, there still may be other problems that can happen. Anything from pilot error, unforeseen circumstances to being shot down by aircraft (as happened during the 1952 flying saucer wave).

So far the crashes have been of smaller craft, which are probably shuttle or scout type craft. So far, no mother ships have ever been reported as crashing. I also think the crashes of any flying saucers is quite rare. Many stories are actually parts of other incidents or did not happen at all. The cases I think happened are: Roswell and Kecksburg. There are other cases where the ship was repaired by the occupants, and those are: Flatwoods (Braxton County) WV and The Battle of LA.

I am not debating they would have excellent systems for travel, but even highly advanced systems may develop possible problems.

kidflash2008 · 05-27-2009, 10:51 AM

While no room for error is what all engineers are looking for, something can and will always go wrong. For the most part, the craft probably have a remarkable performance rate.

Many people will fly on commercial jets, even though there is a tiny probability of a crash. The aliens who travel through time and space probably know what risks they are taking, just like our astronauts do.

04-13-2009, 10:59 AM	#1
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	The US Air Force Roswell report It seems that a major theory in the USAF report debunking Roswell is unraveling: http://www.ufocon.blogspot.com/ Kevin Randle also has a blog on the story and what he said when the USAF interviewed him: http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2009...d-project.html The interesting part on behalf of Major Kevin Randle is he interviewed many high ranking officers who new about or were at the site of the crash. As an officer in the USAF in the past and current Army Guard major, Maj Randle has an inside take on his interviews that many of the civilian researchers do not. I also try to put my military career in perspective and what I know about military red tape when I read about the Roswell crash. One of my many questions is why would such high ranking flag officers fly to Roswell over the crash of a balloon? The balloon and material itself was not classified, just Project Mogul. Why did pilots fly the debris to Wright-Patterson on a special flight? The debris would have been dealt with using normal supply channels at the time, not given any special treatment. All of that is documented and known. The researchers should be reading between the lines and asking those types of questions. To me, those usually mundane facts lead me to believe something out of this world crashed at Roswell.

04-13-2009, 11:59 AM	#2
Tecnos Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 419	Why does it always seem to be 'one step forward and two steps back'? I'm with an open mind with regard to Roswell (in fact, I'm not), I believe that Roswell was a failed experiment about attaching bombs to high altitude balloons to float them over enemy airspace. Roswell became the benchmark standard for conspiracists all over the globe..... BUT..... Big BUT..... WHY..... are UFO sightings (with reasonably good pictures and/or video) becoming more prevalent? Until the '70's UFO sightings were synonymous with missile bases......or test facilities..... This has now changed! There is now the 'evidence' that the sightings are in suburbia, over the oceans or over the mountains..... In one respect, the Manhattan Project announced to the Galaxy that Earth was now a nuclear power. Did that attract attention to our blue planet? Or did it nurture a culture between the 'super societies' that 'political spinning' of the threat of alien invasion was less of a threat to the Hoi Polloi than the threat of nuclear attack? Whichever way you spin it, there are UFO's.... And until a government actually spells the truth out, it will always be speculation! In MY opinion, Roswell was a diversion, however there are other less published incidents where the TRUTH will be found. Reading through the many reports from: pilots, military staff, lackeys and especially declassified documents.... http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ There is definately something out there..... __________________

05-21-2009, 08:47 PM	#4
wallarookiller Junior Investigator Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6	I love the roswell case because of the statements made and then taken away. Maybe it was a cover up of something sneeky the government was doing or maybe it really was more but it sure makes people think about not trusting what they hear and read. which makes all the difference now. __________________ With so many UFO Videos and alien pictures how can anyone not believe?

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04-14-2009, 10:50 AM	#3
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	Roswell was not a diversion. It is important because the base actually had a press release claiming they had found a disk. A disk is NOT a balloon, and the officers and servicemen and women assigned to the base knew that. They worked with balloons all the time, and had seen them when they landed. Roswell is a case where there were no real steps in place to deal with a possible craft from another world crashing to Earth. Add to that the testimony of some high ranking officers that has come out about what landed, and one has a very good case. The questions I have pondered point out that something extraordinary happened in the Roswell area during the summer of 1947. There was no cover-up back then, as the Roswell incident is considered the first real case of a crashed disk. Many skeptics including renowned debunker Phillip Klass wondered why the Air Force would go out of its way to do a report on Roswell in the 1990s. If they thought nothing had happened, why bring attention to it? Also, the report omitted all the testimony of officers who claimed to know about the craft and bodies. Only the officers who kept to the story that there was nothing to Roswell were interviewed. The Roswell case will not go away because it is the most important event in ufology history. The US government has an extraterrestrial craft in their possession. The way that I found this out was to read between the lines and look at all the reports on what took place in the time frame. I give the military kudos for doing a good job of covering it up, but there are still many, many clues out there as to what happened. Unfortunately for the military, the base commander approved the press release of the crashed disk story. If you read Major Randle's blog on the story, the officer in charge of the report was offered names and addresses of officers who claimed to have witnessed events, but declined. He wanted Major Randle to admit he was only in it for the money. The story of Roswell is far from over.

05-27-2009, 10:51 AM	#7
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	While no room for error is what all engineers are looking for, something can and will always go wrong. For the most part, the craft probably have a remarkable performance rate. Many people will fly on commercial jets, even though there is a tiny probability of a crash. The aliens who travel through time and space probably know what risks they are taking, just like our astronauts do.