Contact with the ancients?

[kidflash2008]

I have just finished reading Robert Temple's updated "The Sirius Mystery" and have also read books by Zecharia Sitchin and Erich Von Daniken. The ideas they all write about is that ancient man has been contacted by extraterrestrials and may have been given help with civilization.

I had always been a bit skeptical about the ancient astronaut theories, but there are some questions about the time. The Egyptian, Sumerian, Indus and other major civilizations seemed to pop up from previously neolithic cultures already fully developed. Who gave them the jump start?

I am one to believe there was a long lost civilization that died out over 10,000 years ago, but there is very little evidence to show this. There is much evidence to show extraterrestrial visitors, and author Robert Temple makes a strong case.

The Dogon not only knew about Sirius B, but also about Sirius C and a planet revolving around Sirius C. This was before the white dwarf Sirius B was discovered, and before the discovery of the red dwarf now known as Sirius C. (Robert Temple wrote the first edition without knowing about the red dwarf. He was ridiculed because many stated it was only a binary system, not a three star system [trinary?].) It is also accepted by many astronomers that a red dwarf would be perfect for a planetary system to develop life on. There have even been discoveries of planets orbiting around red dwarfs, showing the Dogon to be correct.

Could the amphibian creatures described by the Dogons (and known as the Annunaki) have actually visited us from Sirius? Other evidence shows the three Egyptian Goddesses related to the star Sirius: Sothis (Isis), Anukis and Sothis, with Sothis holding two water baskets that could symbolize planets.

The Dogon also speak of other creatures from other close by worlds who have visited the Earth also. Could they mean the Zeti Reticuli system that the visitors who abducted the Hills could come from?

I am one to incline that both happened, the earth did have a really ancient civilization that disappeared, and that ancient visitors came here and found that civilization gone. They decided to help jump-start our world, and helped leave many clues as to who they were. This would help with finding out explanations for many monuments out there, including the pyramids all over the world.

Many of the ancient beliefs do incorporate the stars and other symbols in their mythology and rites. Reading them helps to get an idea of who our mysterious visitors were.

It is also interesting that many mainstream scientists ridicule these ideas, then come up with preposterous explanations of what happened. Carl Sagan suggested that the Dogon learned of the star system before the missionaries visited them. That would be nice, but it does not explain how they knew about Sirius B's 50 year elliptical orbit or about the third star in the system. There is much evidence out there that would bite us in the ass if it was any closer. It is up to the researchers to find the clues and put them together. (How about exploring the secret chambers of the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid as a start?)

[kidflash2008]

BTW, I do not think the Annunaki came from Nibiru. I do believe they came from the Sirius system and that Nibiru may be code for a base on one of the planets/satellites in our solar system. Could it be Mars and the city of Cydonia? That is a possibility and should get looked at soon.

Is it possible the governments are covering up evidence of past visitors? Robert Temple claimed he was harassed by government agencies after the first publication of his book. Since this is a site that looks at conspiracies, that question is quite valid. I think any real smoking gun proof has been confiscated by our governments and is in a "Raiders of the Lost Ark" type warehouse.

[$$kneel-B4-me$$]

wow, i need to do some investingation on this topic. Please tell more on the subject, or give me a good place to start researching.

[Area-51]

I think, I need to get my hands on this book. Is it available on the internet? (ebay, amazon or something)

[BURNING MAN]

Apart from teaching the Dogon useless astronomical information, did the aliens teach them the barbaric act of female genital mutilation (female circumcision)
as well?

[Area-51]

Originally Posted by BURNING MAN

Apart from teaching the Dogon useless astronomical information, did the aliens teach them the barbaric act of female genital mutilation (female circumcision)
as well?

That´s gross.

[kidflash2008]

"The Sirius Mystery" by Robert Temple (revised 1998) is available at amazon and other areas.

Other books to get are "Fingerprints of the Gods" and "Underworld" by Graham Hancock. Colin Wilson also has many books on these subjects.

Zecharia Sitchin and Erich Von Daniken also touch on the subject. I do not agree with Zecharia Sitchin on Nibiru, but he does gather a lot of intriguing evidence that we were visited by extraterrestrials.

"The Orion Mystery" by Robert Bauval is a good book on the astronomical alignments of the pyramids. Most of them are aligned for the star Sirius, which has three Goddesses representing parts of the star.

[kidflash2008]

Originally Posted by BURNING MAN

Apart from teaching the Dogon useless astronomical information, did the aliens teach them the barbaric act of female genital mutilation (female circumcision)
as well?

The Dogon appeared to have learned their ideas from the very ancient Egyptians. The aliens from Sirius C actually visited those civilizations a long time ago. The evidence of the three stars (and planet) in the Sirius system is in both the Egyptian and Akkadian mythological texts. Mr Temple's book is very well researched and has all the connections of the Sirius system tied to the mythos of the peoples.

As far as genital mutilation, I don't know where they learned that barbaric act. Another question is why does America still practice genital mutilation by circumcising baby boys? There are not easy answers as to why these practices are done. I do not see why the Nommo from Sirius would come all the way here to teach a barbaric ritual.

If one reads the book, they learn all the detailed information the Dogon were taught (along with the ancient Egyptians and other peoples).

[kidflash2008]

Originally Posted by $$kneel-B4-me$$

wow, i need to do some investingation on this topic. Please tell more on the subject, or give me a good place to start researching.

A good place is the library to start from. It is interesting to read books printed in the early 1970s and see that they are now being confirmed. Sirius C is a good idea on that one, along with the planets being discovered orbiting red dwarf stars.

While some of the authors go into heavy speculation, it is the major ideas and the evidence that I look for. It is also interesting to read when one author disagrees with another one on an idea. The Sphinx' age is one of the major contentions that I did notice. Robert Temple thinks it is not as old as Graham Hancock believes (12,500 years). I am one to think it was built around 7000 BCE to 5000 BCE, which still makes it much older than previously thought. (The erosion by rain is one of the major reasons that convinces me. Mr Temple claims it was a moat that cause the erosion.) Once you start reading about this fascinating topic, you find all kinds of books on it. Mr Hancock, Mr Bauval and Mr Temple are all very meticulous researchers in the field. While many criticize Mr Sitchin, he does bring up questions and unexplained anomalies to the reader.

[BURNING MAN]

I have read The Sirius Mystery and although I do admit that it's an interesting read, it is only a hypothesis that requires further investigation.

I am yet to be convinced.