Hacker's 'moral crusade' over UFO

BURNING MAN · 07-29-2009, 03:42 AM

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A Briton fighting extradition to the US for hacking into top-secret computers claims he was morally justified in breaking the law.
Gary McKinnon, 43, from Wood Green, north London, admits hacking into 97 US government computers, including Nasa's and Pentagon's, during 2001 and 2002.

He told the BBC he was on a "moral crusade" to prove US intelligence had found an alien craft run on clean fuel.

Results of judicial reviews into Mr McKinnon's case are due on Friday.

They focus on whether Mr McKinnon should have been allowed to face trial in the UK and whether the decision to extradite him should have been reconsidered in light of his diagnosis as having Asperger's Syndrome last year.
His lawyers say he is "eccentric" rather than malicious and that he should be tried on lesser charges in the UK to protect his mental health.

Mr McKinnon is accused of hacking into the computers with the intention of intimidating the US government.

His legal team fear he could be treated as a terrorist and face up to 70 years in jail.

The US government says his actions caused damage costing $800,000 (£500,000) at a time of heightened security in the wake of the 11 September 2001 attacks.

Mr McKinnon told BBC Radio 5 live's Victoria Derbyshire show: "I'm not blind to criminality but I was on a moral crusade at the time.

"There was good evidence to show that certain secretive parts of the American government intelligence agencies did have access to crashed extra terrestrial technology which could... save us as a form of free, clean, pollution-free energy.

"I thought if someone was holding on to that, that was actually unconstitutional under American law."

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kidflash2008 · 07-29-2009, 12:43 PM

Mr McKinnon has a right to remain silent. The idiot keeps opening his mouth and admitting he committed a crime. What lawyer will represent an idiot?

He is trying to make excuses for his illegal behavior. Will it help win over a jury or will the Prosecution use the terrorist card and scare the jury into convicting him? The man is in his 40s and needs to grow up. He is in deep trouble and needs to find his way out of it. Keeping his mouth shut and waiting to tell his side at the trial would be the best advice. The Prosecution now knows what his defense will be and will tear him a new one.

MORTY · 07-29-2009, 12:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKU7nPX0xH8

from what i have seen of this topic, it was rediculously easy to hack , using of the shelf software , i dont think the fact he is autistic has anything to do with it , yes he was stupid to leave insults on the computers but it's pentagon and nasa's stupid fault for not even having passwords in place on numerous accounts , i think that the american goverment have to make an example out of some one but 60 years is rediculous , which makes it even more believable they have something to hide!,in numerous interviews he seems like a genuin nice guy, but yes a bit dim to leave messages and traces of himself on the systems! he wasnt trying to cause terrorsit acts he hasnt murdered or raped anyone, even the uk police have proof he wasnt "vandelising" any systems , they shud give him a break in my opinion.

TheNugzMan · 07-30-2009, 06:54 AM

The sentence they are seeking is outrageous, the people who murdered my parents didn't even get that much time...

Truthed · 07-30-2009, 09:43 AM

I agree, 70 years is a bit crazy

kidflash2008 · 07-30-2009, 10:10 AM

I do agree the sentence being considered is too extreme, but Mr McKinnon does himself no favors by opening his mouth.

Also, to try and blame the agencies for his lawbreaking will not help his case either. Hopefully he will wise up and keep his mouth shut.

Clifurd · 07-30-2009, 01:19 PM

Wow for some reason Kidflash seems to be VERY defensive towards this one. We DO have clean pollution free and Costless energy that we COULD be using but do you think the governments are going to give up their trillions of dollars they receive through Oil and other electricity producing actions. Every person in the world could own a small box that would cleanly and freely give you electricity. We will NEVER see the day when the human race lives in harmony with the the planet Earth (we are the only creatures that don't live in harmony). That is, unless we all do something about it, but no. We just sit back and let the world be worked for us instead of making it the way it needs to be. Fuck all of the world's governments, they are no more powerful than we are and there are a hell of a lot more of us than there are of them. Whenever the world wakes up and wants to revolt against the evil that takes place in the world today then give me a call. There is strength in numbers.

kidflash2008 · 07-31-2009, 12:23 PM

I am not a fan of the government either, but the issue is a defendant running his mouth for sympathy. I can state none of us will sit on the man's jury. He needs to convince 12 people he is innocent of the charges. He can try to drum up sympathy with his reasons, but many on the jury will be law and order types. Others who may sympathize with him would probably vote to convict just so they can get home.

He has admitted to breaking the law. He NEVER should have done that. A statement such as "The truth will come out" would suffice before a trial.

I know I sound heartless in this case, but the man is over 40 years old and should know how the world works. If he chose to break the law, that was his business. Many others have found information and managed to leak it without causing trouble for themselves. I think he made his identity known for the attention, and now it is time to pay the piper. (The interviews are my reasons for that deduction.)
Many people here will feel sorry for him (I do not think he should go to prison, just pay a fine and get a suspended sentence), and I can see why. However, he is not a young man who does not know the ways of the world.

TheNugzMan · 07-31-2009, 08:12 PM

I have to agree with you kid...he is a grown ass man who knew he was breaking the law. He should never have admitted it till after his trial. I mean he had a lot of info, but he has no proof, so he just put a nail in his coffin on some here say...not too smart. If he had downloaded pictures or video or something and then spread it to the world, that would be one thing. But don't go tellin the world what you found on government computers without PROOF.

Area-51 · 08-03-2009, 05:37 AM

It's true, that Gary Mckinnon talks much about this stuff, but most the time he is asked to talk. Sure, he commited a crime, but why give him a 70 years punishment, if the government officially claims to hide nothing from the public which has anything to do with ufo's. I mean this guy gets a harder punishment than a murderer (in some cases).

So I kind of understand why he is talking so much about this. may be wants to show everyone, that his punishment is simply unfair.

07-29-2009, 12:58 PM	#3
MORTY Investigator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: UK Posts: 143	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKU7nPX0xH8 from what i have seen of this topic, it was rediculously easy to hack , using of the shelf software , i dont think the fact he is autistic has anything to do with it , yes he was stupid to leave insults on the computers but it's pentagon and nasa's stupid fault for not even having passwords in place on numerous accounts , i think that the american goverment have to make an example out of some one but 60 years is rediculous , which makes it even more believable they have something to hide!,in numerous interviews he seems like a genuin nice guy, but yes a bit dim to leave messages and traces of himself on the systems! he wasnt trying to cause terrorsit acts he hasnt murdered or raped anyone, even the uk police have proof he wasnt "vandelising" any systems , they shud give him a break in my opinion. __________________ OPEN YOUR MIND!

07-30-2009, 09:43 AM	#5
Truthed Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,079	I agree, 70 years is a bit crazy __________________ "You Want To Believe" http://www.truthed.com truthed@truthed.com

07-30-2009, 10:10 AM	#6
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	I do agree the sentence being considered is too extreme, but Mr McKinnon does himself no favors by opening his mouth. Also, to try and blame the agencies for his lawbreaking will not help his case either. Hopefully he will wise up and keep his mouth shut. Last edited by kidflash2008; 07-30-2009 at 10:15 AM. Reason: amended

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07-29-2009, 12:43 PM	#2
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	Mr McKinnon has a right to remain silent. The idiot keeps opening his mouth and admitting he committed a crime. What lawyer will represent an idiot? He is trying to make excuses for his illegal behavior. Will it help win over a jury or will the Prosecution use the terrorist card and scare the jury into convicting him? The man is in his 40s and needs to grow up. He is in deep trouble and needs to find his way out of it. Keeping his mouth shut and waiting to tell his side at the trial would be the best advice. The Prosecution now knows what his defense will be and will tear him a new one.

07-30-2009, 06:54 AM	#4
TheNugzMan Junior Investigator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 52	The sentence they are seeking is outrageous, the people who murdered my parents didn't even get that much time...

07-30-2009, 01:19 PM	#7
Clifurd Junior Investigator Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 61	Wow for some reason Kidflash seems to be VERY defensive towards this one. We DO have clean pollution free and Costless energy that we COULD be using but do you think the governments are going to give up their trillions of dollars they receive through Oil and other electricity producing actions. Every person in the world could own a small box that would cleanly and freely give you electricity. We will NEVER see the day when the human race lives in harmony with the the planet Earth (we are the only creatures that don't live in harmony). That is, unless we all do something about it, but no. We just sit back and let the world be worked for us instead of making it the way it needs to be. Fuck all of the world's governments, they are no more powerful than we are and there are a hell of a lot more of us than there are of them. Whenever the world wakes up and wants to revolt against the evil that takes place in the world today then give me a call. There is strength in numbers.

07-31-2009, 12:23 PM	#8
kidflash2008 Senior Investigator Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,699	I am not a fan of the government either, but the issue is a defendant running his mouth for sympathy. I can state none of us will sit on the man's jury. He needs to convince 12 people he is innocent of the charges. He can try to drum up sympathy with his reasons, but many on the jury will be law and order types. Others who may sympathize with him would probably vote to convict just so they can get home. He has admitted to breaking the law. He NEVER should have done that. A statement such as "The truth will come out" would suffice before a trial. I know I sound heartless in this case, but the man is over 40 years old and should know how the world works. If he chose to break the law, that was his business. Many others have found information and managed to leak it without causing trouble for themselves. I think he made his identity known for the attention, and now it is time to pay the piper. (The interviews are my reasons for that deduction.) Many people here will feel sorry for him (I do not think he should go to prison, just pay a fine and get a suspended sentence), and I can see why. However, he is not a young man who does not know the ways of the world.

07-31-2009, 08:12 PM	#9
TheNugzMan Junior Investigator Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 52	I have to agree with you kid...he is a grown ass man who knew he was breaking the law. He should never have admitted it till after his trial. I mean he had a lot of info, but he has no proof, so he just put a nail in his coffin on some here say...not too smart. If he had downloaded pictures or video or something and then spread it to the world, that would be one thing. But don't go tellin the world what you found on government computers without PROOF.

08-03-2009, 05:37 AM	#10
Area-51 Investigator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 459	It's true, that Gary Mckinnon talks much about this stuff, but most the time he is asked to talk. Sure, he commited a crime, but why give him a 70 years punishment, if the government officially claims to hide nothing from the public which has anything to do with ufo's. I mean this guy gets a harder punishment than a murderer (in some cases). So I kind of understand why he is talking so much about this. may be wants to show everyone, that his punishment is simply unfair.